Lets change subject. 150 MPG - Saturn Vue
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2008/01/11/hunter.extreme.hybrid.cnn On 1/11/08, Don Tran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > negative, > > I'm a firm believer in communication, audio (horn) & visual (lights), I > have a firm belief that the automakers put the horns on cars so we could use > them to communicate, > > example, someone lets me make a turn in traffic, a light tap of the horn > and wave, indicates a thank you, or > I see a trucker-semi-tractor trailer/18 wheeler, with his signals on, to > change lanes, I back off the throttle, flash my headlights a few times so he > can see them, (indicating I see him and am letting him move over) and he > makes the land change, then flashes his lights at me, indicating a thank > you. I do it all the time for truckers. > > It's not illegal to flash your lights, it's illegal to use your high beams > on within 1000' of another car, the new law is, your head lights must be on, > even in daylight, if your windshield wipers have to be on, meaning it's > raining or snowing > > > > > On Jan 10, 2008 10:14 PM, Alan Ptak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A re-reading of the California driver's handbook could be in order. It's > > been a while, but IIRC: - it's actually illegal to flash your lights at > > traffic > > - the recommended practice is to stay in your lane and to avoid lane > > changing for, eg, passing cars. > > - excessive use of the horn is discouraged > > > > > > Cell phone users aside, nobody actually drives like that. Theory and > > practice can be radically different. Good job on saving the lives of the > > pedestrians in the crosswalk. > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:19 PM, Don Tran wrote: > > > > actually, most of the drivers get the message and vacate the fast lane > > (left lane), as in the fast lane is supposedly for passing only, or the fast > > lane, > > > > another thing, I use my horn VERY liberally when I drive, it's not just > > cell phone drivers on the freeway, but those asleep at the wheel, or those > > in the front waiting at the light, that don't go when the light turns green, > > ESPECIALLY for the shorter timed, left turn arrow lights, I even bought an > > air horn for my volvo for that purpose, drivers should focus on their > > driving for the safety of themself, and all their passengers, and those > > around them. > > > > one guy, narrowly missed pedestrians crossing the street recently, and > > almost killed them all, I blasted my horn and he woke up and swerved and > > narrowly missed them at the crosswalk. > > > > what gets me is those drivers that do what were complaining about in the > > fast lane, because their reasoning is it's safer to talk and slow down in > > the fast lane, because they only have to worry about the car to their right, > > and because in the other lanes, they have to worry about cars to their left > > and right, and the right side lanes, have merging traffic that they have to > > deal with as they are driving, mean while they're holding everyone up in the > > fast lane. > > > > as for me, like I say, I pull off the freeway, If I have to chat, or > > don't take the call, (VM), > > and if i see some one coming up, faster than me in the fast lane, I > > vacate it and move over for them, and that's the way it should be > > > > the U.S. freeway was built, and modeled after the German Autobahn, after > > General Eisenhower, saw it, and later became president, he wanted one built > > just like it here, and so in Germany, when some one comes up behind you in > > the fast lane, and flashes their lights, IT'S THE LAW, you have to move over > > and vacate it for the faster traffic, that's the way it should be here > > > > > > On Jan 10, 2008 4:01 PM, Tom Emerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- Mike Outmesguine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > [...] > > > You may be sure of that, and it's easy to leap to that conclusion. Of > > > course > > > traffic delays propogate. I've heard CHP say for every 1 minute of > > > delay it > > > takes 5 minutes to clear up. But that's not what the report was > > > stating. The > > > report (as much as we've seen) said that cellphone talkers don't > > > change > > > lanes, causing longer commutes. > > > > > > Then the stories jumped to the conclusion that cellphones clog > > > traffic. > > > But > > > it's the driver in front: the old guy, the truck, the Prius, or Nissan > > > Pulsar NX loping along in front of Mr. > > > Aggressive-But-Not-Paying-Attention > > > college student who normally zooms around those slowpokes but since > > > he's on > > > the phone, he skips that manuever 20% of the time. > > > > > > ============ > > > > > > This is a no-win argument -- years ago my commute took me along the 10 > > > from El Monte through "downtown" -- for those not familiar with that > > > stretch, the on and off ramps had a "common section", so you could drive > > > "around" traffic by taking an offramp and not-actually-exit and re-enter a > > > good 1/4 mile or more "ahead" of where you were "stopped". Of course, > > > you > > > had to merge with two sources of oncoming traffic (one for each direction > > > of > > > traffic on the surface street you were crossing with that ramp), then > > > merge > > > with traffic actually on the freeway. All this "merging" caused such a > > > tremendous slowdown that when all was said and done, you might have gained > > > one or two car-lengths against anyone who stayed on the freeway in the > > > right-most lane (or, as I often got to chuckle over, you'd actually lose > > > ground...) > > > > > > As to your point about the "normally-aggressive, but on the phone" > > > drivers not actually changing lanes, this is a good thing -- it's those > > > "sudden lane changes" that cause the overly cautious driver that they have > > > cut off to slam on their brakes and start a chain reaction [at the time I > > > drove a stick shift, and most of the time when I saw this happening I > > > would > > > simply downshift and let the engine slow the car without hitting the > > > brakes > > > -- since I wasn't participating in the propogation of red-light-madness, I > > > hoped I was doing more good than harm...] > > > > > > > > > [hmmm, time for another meeting -- time to run...] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alan Ptak > > V: 310.488.8606 > > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > IM: SynAckPtak (AIM, yahoo, gtalk) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SOCALWUG" group. 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