On 20 January 2018 at 13:20, marc <[email protected]> wrote:

> quoting carlo freely, probably messily =)
>
>
> Teddks was the man who convinced
>> me that federation was a dead horse. Now we are dealing
>> with dead elephants as an alternative to it. Progress!
>> (...)
>> How can anything that goes onto the blockchain scale up?
>>
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> Well, i don't know, that was why i was asking.. since are very visible
> developed techs,
> perhaps holochain, and that mike s miller approach bring something new
> there. idk.
>

No block chains typically cant scale up, at least not efficiently.  This is
why layer 2+ is useful.  Or using the a distributed web strategy.

Happy new year all! :)


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> Eight years ago there was this "gnu social p2p" vs
>> "gnu social" dispute.
>>
>
> well, i hope to help re-open this enterprise project, why not at gnu?
> makes sense to try. or let's try a bunch of us further something really
> well based-done.
>
> i agree that blockchain has shadened the brighter p2p is, and this worries
> me, as you see, i do phrasing mistakes with that.
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> Reinventing Bitmessage?
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> i forgot to mention zeronet.io, that uses bitmessage, since it says it
> also uses blockchain tech, would you dislike it as a code base, let's say
> for a mory groupy fakebook-like project?
>
>
> You would want all users to publish how long they have been
>> watching some crp and prove it by some cryptographic means?
>> Just when I thought we had enough surveillance economy.
>>
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> hey wait there :), i said "users who agree to donate their (even inner
> interactivity) data".
> i.e. i want to donate even my mouse clicking pretending..
>
> why should i be denied to contribute this type of data to the most or some
> other refined machines if i want to?
> forced privacy is forcing, and despite for passwords or such security
> things,
> appeals to privacy have to be recomendations, or otherwise can be security
> or integrity patronizing fallacies
>
> in this sense, as a PoC, i imagine a wysiwyg like editor that let's you
> offuscate for robots some pieces of some text from some type of content
>
> btw. staying watching something for more than 5 seconds, could be a easy
> way to moderate anything.
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> Has anyone told you blockchain people that basic income
>> models over ethereum fail because the super-rich needed
>> to finance it will simply not take part?
>>
>
> this was coming from the proof-of-presence issue, but has gone into
> another, very interesting, point, which my reply is:
>
> any community, including the states, can start a basic income
>
> we do not need the super-rich to help us in this, we can do it much much
> easier than we think, but we are too lazy. it is easier to stay in our
> confort areas (including complaining about the super rich only, which is
> not your case carlo)
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> Maybe it takes a certain lack of rationality to
>> successfully become a fan of blockchains.
>>
>
> "money" is out there as a virus we need to convive with that is testing
> us...
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> hack on!
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