I know that the first article on Ar Wiki was "water" which was created on July 11, 2003 <https://ar.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D9%85%D8%A7%D8%A1&dir=prev&action=history> and this is the date on which the community celebrates Ar wiki anniversary every year. I asked about that edit on 2001 earlier and found that it's an error in timestamp as Guillaume has mentioned. I believe that the automatic way is not the best way to get accurate dates. It would be better if we create a page on meta and ask community on different wikis to contribute to it. Maybe we can ask them on Wikimedia-l?
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Joe Sutherland <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for this Guillaume! It's not as easy as one would imagine... > > Joe > > On 6 July 2015 at 21:30, Ed Erhart <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You might be interested in talking with Graham87 >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Graham87>, who's done a lot of work >> with importing old edits from nostalgia.wiki. >> >> --Ed >> >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Guillaume Paumier < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Le lundi 6 juillet 2015, 15:50:21 Joe Sutherland a écrit : >>> > It's kind of odd that there's no list anywhere already; I can't be the >>> > first person to ask this! But that would be much appreciated Guillaume >>> :) >>> >>> So, I've got a preliminary list, but it looks like we might need to find >>> a >>> better way of identifying the creation date than the earliest timestamp, >>> because it gives some weird results: >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/P895 >>> >>> Here's an excerpt from the top of the list: >>> >>> 19700101000000: zhwikisource >>> 20010115000000: arwiki >>> 20010116200833: enwiki >>> 20010116200833: nostalgiawiki >>> 20010223175216: enwikibooks >>> 20010308131402: elwiki >>> 20010317014148: cawiki >>> 20010402182741: dewiki >>> >>> BUT: >>> * zhwikisource wasn't created in 1970 (or we've been lied to for a long >>> time). >>> * arwiki wasn't created before enwiki, and enwikibooks and elwiki weren't >>> created before cawiki. >>> * nostalgia wiki has exactly the same earliest timestamp as enwiki? >>> Suspicious. >>> * Some wikis don't return an earliest timestamp at all (?!), see bottom >>> of the >>> list. >>> >>> So there definitely are oddities; they're probably due to errors with >>> timestamps, or servers losing time, etc. (see >>> https://www.facebook.com/gpaumier/posts/10154157729588475 for a similar >>> issue >>> I recently discovered, and that Tim helped resolve). Therefore, revision >>> timestamps are probably not a reliable way to determine the creation >>> date of a >>> wiki. >>> >>> As a wikiarchaeologist, I do find this kind of stuff incredibly >>> interesting, >>> though, so I'll look into it further during my Copious Free Time™, but >>> likely >>> after Wikimania. (I like the fact that I seem to have inadvertently >>> discovered >>> a way to identify all edits across wikis with an aberrant timestamp!) >>> >>> -- >>> Guillaume Paumier >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Social-media mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Ed Erhart >> Editorial Intern >> Wikimedia Foundation >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Social-media mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media >> >> > > > -- > *Joe Sutherland* > Communications Intern [remote] > m: +44 (0) 7722 916 433 | t: @jrbsu <http://twitter.com/jrbsu> | w: > JSutherland <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:JSutherland_(WMF)> > > _______________________________________________ > Social-media mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/social-media > > -- Samir Elsharbaty, Communications Intern, Wikipedia Education Program Wikimedia Foundation +2.011.200.696.77 [email protected] education.wikimedia.org
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