On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Nick Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  1. What do web APIs look like when translated to XMPP, and what new
> >  interaction models does that enable?
>
> We could very much relate AtomPub with PubSub. These two standards enable
> users and agents to discover, subscribe, view and syndicate information in
> an intuitive and non-obtrusive way.

The twitter api actually does this, albeit unofficially and with some
warts. Alex has begun documenting the public timeline pubsub feed
here:

http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/web/jabber-pubsub

but so far unreleased (but complete) is the actual PubSub (XEP-0060)
API for subscribing to feeds. Authentication and interface design are
the main blocking issues preventing Twitter from having this in the
public.

FWIW, I don't think *publish* over XMPP makes sense in the context of
Twitter until federation becomes a reality, since the design of
clients is simplified by just using HTTP.

> > >  2. Federated social networks over XMPP
>
> I think ISS (Instant Syndicating Standards) provides a good framework
> towards federated social networks over XMPP and HTTP. It's worth taking a
> look.

Agreed - I must confess I'm not excited by the tag clouds / discovery,
since I'm a big believer in simplest-possible-thing. HTTP has managed
to get by with 3rd party discovery mechanisms that are built on top of
the protocol layer (google, yahoo, etc) rather than inside the
protocol layer. But in general, I think the patterns are sound and the
key is the addressability, which XMPP provides where HTTP doesn't (in
a guaranteed consistent way).

> BTW, welcome back! ;)

thanks ;-)

b.

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