Hi Dan,

Really interesting work you got! I read about it a while back and wanted to
get in touch with you to discuss some ideas I have about searching. I have
already discussed it privately with a few friends but I think it would be
nice to have some feedback from this list. It's half-baked, but this is what
I have in mind:

I've been working on ISS (Instant Syndicating Standards) <http://iss.im/>.
It was part of Google's Summer of Code in 2006 and I had great help from the
XSF and the Psi Community. The key concepts are:

a) we have a format that associates each individual with their own
broadcasting channels (called *tagcloud*);
b) and a format that describes how these channels are connected through a
trusted network of people (called *taglink*).

The next step that I'm exploring to include in ISS is Search. This is the
basic workflow:

a) each individual generates a social graph beforehand consulting the
cascading taglinks;
b) a query can be sent to friends up to *x* degrees apart, where *x* is
define by the user;
c) this query is published on the users' *searched* node with an ID;
d) each query has a TTL (e.g. TTL = 1 month);
e) friends may accept the query and see if they have entries that match. If
so, they send the IDs of the matched entries and publish that to their *
matched* node. The query is kept until the TTL expires or according to the
policies.
f) users receive the matched entries in their aggregator. These appear
associated with the original query and separated from the main flow of the
aggregator.

The idea is to have a *syndicated search* that is totally decentralized and
served by friends (and friends of friends) for an extended period of time.

I still need to work on it to cover more specific details, but feedback is
welcome.

Best regards,
Nick Vidal

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Dan Brickley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>
> > BTW, I had to tweak something in the Mailman admin interface so I
> > decided to see how many people are subscribed to this list. Turns out
> > there are ~250 of you. I didn't think so many people were interested in
> > the intersection of XMPP and social networking, but I was wrong. :)
> >
>
> Which is as good a nudge as any to finally de-lurk. Um yup, XMPP is one of
> the quiet success stories of social networking interop. It really seems to
> have turned a corner these last few years and all that hard work is paying
> off.
>
> I have various interests here, ... most generally, in looking for
> integration opportunities across the various 'social web' technologies that
> have recently matured. In the FOAF project for example, we're interested in
> use of XMPP for representing groups, buddylists, and sharing of user
> profiles. More generally I've been hacking around with the use of XMPP as a
> data bus for RDF querying using SPARQL (as Peter well knows, being my XMPP
> helpline). Some notes on that at [1]. I'm also interested in ways of
> describing XMPP group chats in ways that make them more findable, so the
> recent work on using HTML 'link' for autodiscovery is rather promising.
>
> Also I'd like to note that at both Social Graph Foo Camp a couple months
> ago, and at XTech in Dublin last week, a good few people noted "oh, I didn't
> realise how important XMPP was before seeing these talks".
>
> cheers,
>
> Dan
>
>
> [1] http://danbri.org/words/2008/02/11/278
>

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