Bringing this into this thread...

Sylvain, this is great work, and exactly what we've been discussing
the last day or so - how to get XMPP and web services playing
together. It looks like you've got XMPP packets being pushed *out* to
an AtomPub API, which is a big deal!

Ok, discuss!

--Steve

> All,

> I had started coding around that topic a few weeks ago but got slowed
> down more than I expected. Anywy a first few gradual steps for those
> interested.

> http://www.defuze.org/archives/20-Microblogging-with-XMPP-and-AtomPub.-Dumping-code..html

> - Sylvain

> PS: Sorry for cross posting.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Josh Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you are looking for example implementations and ideas to draw from,
> id suggest "smob":
>
> http://smob.sioc-project.org/
>
> with code at
>
> http://code.google.com/p/smob/
>
> It's described as "A distributed / decentralised microblogging system,
> built on Semantic Web technologies, mainly SIOC and FOAF."
>
> Josh
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 9:20 am, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Perhaps we just need to code up a demo using this approach and probe
>> the challenge moot: I'd be thrilled if the building blocks we already
>> have solve this problem and be put in place immediately!
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent by 1G iPhone.
>>
>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 15:29, "Bob Wyman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Chris,
>> > I can't see any reason why an XRDS file with a link to the
>> > appropriate JID would NOT be the correct way to implement this. Is
>> > there something I'm missing?
>>
>> > bob wyman
>>
>> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > wrote:
>> > Let me frame the challenge/opportunity this way:
>>
>> > Presume that I have a URL of my own, given a recipient URL, I want
>> > to be able to send a message "at it" and have it be received on the
>> > other end, and be routed properly, based on the recipient's rules.
>> > As the sender, I just want to be able to send a message and know
>> > that the recipient should receive it.
>>
>> > This parallels having a "from" email address and sending it "to" a
>> > recipient email address. But in this case we're replacing email as
>> > the identifier with a URL.
>>
>> > So if I self-identify ashttp://twitter.com/factoryjoeand I want to
>> > send a message tohttp://twitter.com/redmonk, if on that endpoint is
>> > a discovery document that suggests where to send messages and how to
>> > sign them so that the messages will be received and not rejected
>> > outright, I think we're getting somewhere.
>>
>> > I see no reason not to use ATOM or XMPP for this, except that XMPP
>> > doesn't work well with today's shared hosting environments. Perhaps
>> > we use XRDS discovery to point to an XMPP endpoint and then offer a
>> > fallback ATOM endpoint in the case that XMPP would fail?
>>
>> > You know that I'm against inventing unnecessarily -- which is why I
>> > pointed out this microblogging effort. It might not be the way to do
>> > it, but it gives us an example of someone's thinking that's actually
>> > been implemented and gives us something to build against.
>>
>> > Chris
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