Hey All,
First of all, I am happy that I brought the subject up!. It seems
like we have a lot to discuss about. :-)
I see a clear advantage for my company using XMPP, because you get a
working messaging/presence infrastructure, that are able to scale and
a lot of different gateways that enables you to already given
services, such as SIP, MSN messanger, twitter, and even some SOA
platforms like apaches ServiceMix (a ESB solution for java).
This is why I also want facebook to come into the game and use XMPP
(BOSH), instead of DWR/REST solutions. It would be easier to integrate
for me.. But probably not for facebook. ha ha ;-)
So for me, I see XMPP for a great connector/enabler of already
existing services. That can either be enables though the web via. BOSH
or either normal TCP/UDP connections..
-Well just my 50 cent. :-)
/Steffen
On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Alexander Gnauck wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:34, Aaron Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:
Seems to point to a larger issue. With over 100 million users, we
need them
in the game. Otherwise, it's just Google on the numbers.
it would be great to have another big player.
Why isn't this protocol important to Web communities?
I don't have the answer to your question.
We have to show the benefits you get from XMPP. If you already have
100 million users then I think federation is not what you are looking
for.
All this social web networking site have already some kind of build in
presence. For them its often easier and faster to write new code based
on their existing structures than learning new protocols like XMPP and
try to integrate them with existing code.
And I don't think we have the server and BOSH component which they can
just drop in and scales for 100 million users out of the box. Google
started the IM service from scratch, this was a totally different
initial situation.
We have to work out the advantages you get from XMPP in such
scenarios. Case studies and whitepapers could help there. This could
be interesting task for the XSF or a working group.
Alex
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Alexander Gnauck
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