On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:17 PM, bear <[email protected]> wrote: > Now to put some friendly pressure on the Laconica > devs to add a source of Atom over XMPP for their > streams instead of the Atom over Chat they > are using now :) Yeah... Grumble... As I understand it, Laconica is trying to maintain compatiblity with the now defunct "Atom over Chat" that Twitter *used* to publish. The reason is that some clients were built to support the Twitter feed back when it was still being published and those client authors didn't want to change what they are were doing for a "small" publisher like Laconica... As Laconica instances proliferate, hopefully, that attitude will change -- especially since Twitter seems to have left the world of XMPP at this point.
In any case, whether or not we've got some legacy cruft in the wild, folk should understand that the "correct" way to publish microblog entries over XMPP (especially for "firehose" feeds) is by using the "Atom over XMPP" specification. See: http://xmpp.org/internet-drafts/draft-saintandre-atompub-notify-07.html At some point, we should try to get agreement on the extra-metadata that people publish in microblog entries. For instance: Number of followers, Number followed, location, profile links, etc. bob wyman On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:17 PM, bear <[email protected]> wrote: > When I did the streams for Seesmic I took a look at the current Best > Practice and had picked Atom for the same reasons you list. Glad I > was ahead of the curve this time :) > > I'll be double checking that the media enclosure formats we are using > are compatible with what Activity Streams is suggesting and tweak as > needed. > > Now to put some friendly pressure on the Laconica devs to add a source > of Atom over XMPP for their streams instead of the Atom over Chat they > are using now :) > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Chris Messina <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks for sharing this here Bob. I agree that I'd love to see > > ActivityStreams pushed over XMPP. We're starting with ATOM for that > reason — > > and would be excited to see what kinds of ideas might emerge from hooking > up > > PubSub for Activities! > > Chris > > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Bob Wyman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Over on the Activity Streams list Martin Atkins has been developing > specs > >> for representing activity stream data as Atom entries. It makes a great > deal > >> of sense to me that we should see this data not only provided via > >> traditional files, but also using Atom Over XMPP so that real-time > clients > >> can be built. MySpace (represented by Monica Keller) has been > particularly > >> active in helping to refine these extensions to the Atom entry format > and > >> recently announced that MySpace and Yahoo are already sharing Atom > Activity > >> data. > >> > >> My hope is that "microblogging" services, that have been the focus of > much > >> of the discussion here, will also grow to handle the more general set of > >> events that ActivityStreams encompasses. It's great that I can generate > >> short-messages on something like Identi.ca today and access them over > XMPP, > >> but it would be even better if I could have all my "activity stream" > data > >> and events handled in the same way. If we can get all the data published > >> over XMPP in a consistent format: "Atom entries with extensions" then it > >> will be really easy to build some really exciting and innovative > clients, > >> cross-platform services, etc. > >> > >> For info on Atom Activity Streams, see: http://activitystrea.ms/ (links > to > >> draft specs are provided) > >> Discussion is on this list: > >> http://groups.google.com/group/activity-streams?hl=en > >> Documentation of data published by MySpace is at: > >> > http://developerwiki.myspace.com/index.php?title=Standards_for_Activity_Streams > >> > >> To give you a quick overview of the kinds of "Activities" or events that > >> MySpace is supporting, I've included the TOC from their spec below: > >> > >> 1 Activities Stream Spec Compliant Activities > >> > >> 1.1 Single User's Activities > >> 1.2 Friend Activities > >> 1.3 Atom Entry Format for Activities > >> 1.4 Photos > >> > >> 1.4.1 Tagged in Photo > >> 1.4.2 Posting a Photo > >> > >> 1.5 Music > >> > >> 1.5.1 Posting a Song > >> 1.5.2 Sharing a Song > >> > >> 1.6 Notes > >> > >> 1.6.1 Posting a Blog > >> 1.6.2 Posting a Forum Topic > >> > >> 1.7 Videos > >> > >> 1.7.1 Sharing a Video > >> 1.7.2 Marking a Video as a Favorite > >> 1.7.3 Posting a Video > >> > >> 1.8 People > >> > >> 1.8.1 Adding Friends > >> 1.8.2 Joining a Group > >> 1.8.3 Creating a Friend Category > >> > >> 1.9 Events > >> > >> 1.9.1 Band Shows > >> 1.9.2 Hosting an event > >> 1.9.3 Attending an event > >> > >> bob wyman > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Messina > > Citizen-Participant & > > Open Web Advocate > > > > factoryjoe.com // diso-project.org // vidoop.com > > This email is: [ ] bloggable [X] ask first [ ] private > > > > > > -- > --- > Bear > > [email protected] (work) > [email protected] (jabber & email) > http://code-bear.com/bearlog (weblog) > > PGP Fingerprint = 9996 719F 973D B11B E111 D770 9331 E822 40B3 CD29 >
