I am a new subscriber to the SC LIST.
Why did I subscribe ?
 
I have an idea, that may be wrong, that SC
seeks rational change from a nearly all bank-
loan based money system to a system that
relies on debt-free money, spent into circu-
lation -- rather than lent into circulation -- to
the degree   that may be required to prevent
poverty, pollution, economic decline, stagnation,
stagflation, etc., etc.
 
(Neither PKT nor any other forum I've joined
will support debt-free money -- they all
wanted money to flow from taxes, bond
sales, and coinage only.  So I see no way
for them to solve our problems short of
interest rates (on government bonds) that
stay very close to zero.)
 
The rational basis for debtless money, as
I understand it, is to prevent a trail of debt
from hog-tying a monetary system of pro-
duction -- waitng for bankruptcy to untie it.
 
It seems to me that the notion of spending
some   money into circulation -- not lending
all of it   into circulation -- would be easy to
sell to voters, if advocates for this kind of
money reform kept their slogans simple.
 
Ross Perot with very simple slogans changed
the Democrats from tax and spend democrats
to tax and spend-less democrats. This change
has enabled Democrats to lose me as a card-
carrying voter and otherwise adopt a useless
Rubinomics that makes no sense at all today.
 
But Ross' great slogans let him do it. Ross
elected Bill C. twice.  And his legacy will elect
supply-side Republicans -- maybe for the rest
of the century.
 
One slogan that may serve some debtless
money is the International Labor Org.'s --
A  Nation  Can  Afford  Anything 
It  Can  Produce .
 
Of course so short a slogan does not logically
connect the production of homes for every
family (especially homeless families)  to
Government Issue (GI) money -- (created
without a loan from someone with money or
by a bank that legally lends money it creates
for credit worthy borrowers to spend).
 
If a connection from debtless money to a
guaranteed system of production was based
on a law of nature -- which it's not -- any poor
country could build houses enough for all its
homeless.  In our experience we know poor
nations can connect their money to inflation
-- but not to the abundance we'd like to
promise.
 
Of course I believe in the ILO slogan
and the connection -- but only when its part
of system of production that is rich in resources
and know-how and does in fact build all the
houses (the way we built lend-lease weapons
of war in the 40's) -- and then cancels any debt
that might otherwise get in its way.
 
I will quit now. To my mind we need some
debtless, taxless, indexed fiat money (DTIFM).
This goes a little beyond debtless money --
and I'll talk of it in a future posting. My wished-
for DTIFM can co-exist with --
        -  banknotes,
        -  taxes that do not penalize employment
           and investment 
        -  non-GI-indexed savings.
 
But to get what I think we need we must first
make the case in very few words. Until ordinary
voters hear us, our professional opposition can
ignore us -- and they will. 
 
        Most of them make good old fashioned
        money by doing that.
 
John Gelles
 
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