Wally, I see it in the archives.  For some reason it 
didn't reach my inbox.

I was bewildered by Michael's characterization that 
you said something about the "investment of savings 
to pay off the loan."

-->The two ways of financing production he describes 
are (a) direct investment of savings in production 
and (b) new credits for new production followed by 
investment of savings to pay off the loan.<--

What you actually said was "investment of existing 
savings in equity," an entirely different matter.

Michael, it seems to me, is advocating a type of 
socialism where there are no competitive markets, 
where prices are fixed, where consumers receive 
income exactly equaling the collective fixed prices 
of the goods reaching the shelf, where they receive 
no surplus whatsoever that would allow them to 
purchase equity in the means of production, so there 
could be no equity markets, and the consumer must 
therefore be entirely beholden to the good graces of 
the bureaucrats in charge of the national credit 
account, from whom he derives his sustenance.

It seems to me that is the very definition of 
slavery, though no doubt more benign than the old 
chattel form.  

--

--------- Original Message ---------

DATE: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:44:27
From: "Wallace M. Klinck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 

>Bill, my posting was made to the List on June 7 at 00:48 and was 
>entitled, "Social Credit--Financing Production, Etc."  You will find it 
>there so I am not re-posting it.
>
>Wally
>
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I must have missed the message from Wally that 
>> Michael refers to below, regarding the selling of 
>> shares, not consumer goods, to repay loans, etc.  I 
>> am bewildered by what is meant by "investment of 
>> savings" to pay off loans.
>> Will Michael or Wally post that message to the list?
>[Clipped]



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