On Wednesday, July 25, 2007 at 02:24:43 +0100, Brad Karp wrote:
>Greetings, all.
>
>We're using about a dozen net4826 boxes here, and we need to connect
>a few USB devices to each box via a single USB hub.
>
>We power each net4826 box using PoE supplied by an HP PoE switch,
>through a D-Link DWL-P50 PoE "splitter" (12V output). (As you know, we
>need the splitter because the net4826 isn't PoE standards-compliant,
>and the splitter puts the power on a pair the net4826 can use.)
>
>We originally intended to power each net4826's USB hub over USB
>itself, and the USB devices from that USB hub. But we found the USB
>devices in the numbers we need draw too much power for that, so we've
>had to fall back on powering the USB hub by other means.
>
>Since we have PoE readily available, we decided to power each USB hub
>using the 5V output of a dedicated D-Link DWL-P50 PoE splitter (each
>supplied with power by a dedicated PoE switch port).
>
>We use D-Link DUB-H7 USB hubs.
>
>So in full, the picture is:
>
>                           PoE                12V
>                 port0 ------------> DWL-P50 ----> net4826
>                /                                      |
>       HP PoE switch                                   | USB cable
>                \                                      |
>                 port1 ------------> DWL-P50 ----> DUB-H7 USB hub
>                           PoE                 5V
>
>Note that no USB devices are hanging off the hub in any of the cases
>I'm describing.
>
>We find that while the net4826 can talk to the USB hub when the USB
>hub is *not* externally powered (i.e., unplug the 5V cable in the
>above picture), the net4826 fails to talk to the USB hub when the USB
>hub *is* externally powered.
>
>In fact, it's worse than that: when we power the USB hub using PoE,
>and connect its USB cable to the net4826, the net4826 hangs
>immediately, and resets upon our disconnecting the USB
>cable. Moreover, we seem to have *permanently* killed the internal USB
>hub on at least one of our net4826 boxes by connecting an externally
>powered USB hub in this way.

Perhaps the GND levels of the DWL-P50's is different when set to 5 or 12
Volt output?  That would cause a short-circuit current that destroys the
USB port.  You can measure the voltage between GND of two adapaters
without the Soekris and USB hub connected.  If you measure (very close
to) 0 V between both GND outputs, you can't use them like this.

Maurice
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