Hello,

Again replying to my own E-Mail - I attached the SYBA IDE2UCF1 to
the Net 5501 ide interface it also booted without the slightest problem
using the Transcend CF.

Steve


Steve Clark wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have more information on the Soekris 5501  boot problem
> using a Transcend TS4GCF266 CF.
> 
> I purchased a cheap SYBA IDE2UCF1 ide to compact flash adapter.
> I installed my Transcend TS4GCF266 CF into and put in a system with
> a pc with about a 5 year old mother board. The CF was recognize without
> any problem and immediately boot FreeBSD without a hitch. 
> 
> I also booted it up on a 2 year old Biostar TForce 6100-939 mainboard without 
> a hitch.
> 
> To me this appears to point to a problem with the Soekris Combios or the Net 
> 5501
> hardwares implementation of its CF to IDE interface.
> 
> I know Soekris says use Sandisk but a 4 GB sandisk CF cost $10 more and is 
> half as
> fast as the Transcend - 20mbs vs 40mbs. 
> 
> Steve
> 
> Steve Clark wrote:
> 
>>Hello,
>>
>>Well I tried 1.33c on my 5501 with my Transcend TS4GCF266 CF and it made 
>>things
>>worst. I was unable to get FreeBSD to boot - it always hangs at mountroot 
>>saying it
>>can't find the root device. 
>>
>>When the 5501 is cold booted I get about a 10-15 sec pause before it 
>>recognizes the CF device
>>with either 1.33c or 1.33b. With both 133.b and 133.c it will start loading 
>>the FreeBSD kernel
>>then there will be a long pause FreeBSD is trying to detect the hard drive
>>
>>atapci0: <AMD CS5536 UDMA100 controller> port 
>>0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xe000-0xe00f at device 20.2 on pci0
>>ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
>>ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
>>
>>then it will continue on detecting other devices and when it gets to the 
>>point to mount the root filesystem
>>it says it can't find it.
>>
>>If at this point with 1.33b I press the reset button on the 5501 the 
>>Transcend CF is immediately recognized and
>>FreeBSD boots up to completion with no problems.
>>
>>With 1.33c if I press the reset button - there again is a long pause during 
>>POST before the CF is recognized and
>>again FreeBSD hangs at can't mountroot. 
>>
>>I tried several time with 1.33c before downgrading the bios back to 1.33b 
>>which then immediately boot up fine.
>>
>>There are voluminous specs for the Transcend CF online at the Transcend web 
>>site.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That is a BIOS problem.
>>>
>>>You see this with 1.33c? Please send you info to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 03:47:33PM -0400, Steve Clark wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Wim Vandeputte mailinglist only wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hey,
>>>>>
>>>>>This is actually the same error you see with FreeBSD and OpenBSD when
>>>>>the BIOS has problems recognising the CF. You can spot it when there is
>>>>>a 20 second delay when detecting the CF and when the bootloader tries
>>>>>any disk activity
>>>>>
>>>>>comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>>>
>>>>>net5501
>>>>>
>>>>>0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz 
>>>>>
>>>>>Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>>>
>>>>>Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int 
>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>>>0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>>>0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>>>0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>>>0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>>>0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101 
>>>>>0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000 
>>>>>0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>>>0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>>>
>>>>>1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>>>Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>>>Loading...
>>>>>probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on] 
>>>>>disk: hd0+*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>>
>>>>>open(hd0a:/etc/boot.conf): Unknown error: code 102
>>>>>boot> reboot
>>>>>Rebooting...
>>>>>exit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>POST: 012345689bcefghips1234ajklnopqr,,,tvwxy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>comBIOS ver. 1.33c 20080626  Copyright (C) 2000-2008 Soekris Engineering.
>>>>>
>>>>>net5501
>>>>>
>>>>>0256 Mbyte Memory                        CPU Geode LX 434 Mhz 
>>>>>
>>>>>Pri Mas  SILICONSYSTEMS INC 1GB          LBA Xlt 1015-32-63  1023 Mbyte
>>>>>
>>>>>Slot   Vend Dev  ClassRev Cmd  Stat CL LT HT  Base1    Base2   Int 
>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>0:01:2 1022 2082 10100000 0006 0220 08 00 00 A0000000 00000000 10
>>>>>0:06:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E101 A0004000 11
>>>>>0:07:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E201 A0004100 05
>>>>>0:08:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E301 A0004200 09
>>>>>0:09:0 1106 3053 02000096 0117 0210 08 40 00 0000E401 A0004300 12
>>>>>0:20:0 1022 2090 06010003 0009 02A0 08 40 80 00006001 00006101 
>>>>>0:20:2 1022 209A 01018001 0005 02A0 08 00 00 00000000 00000000 
>>>>>0:21:0 1022 2094 0C031002 0006 0230 08 00 80 A0005000 00000000 15
>>>>>0:21:1 1022 2095 0C032002 0006 0230 08 00 00 A0006000 00000000 15
>>>>>
>>>>>1 Seconds to automatic boot.   Press Ctrl-P for entering Monitor.
>>>>>Using drive 0, partition 3.
>>>>>Loading...
>>>>>probing: pc0 com0 com1 pci mem[639K 255M a20=on] 
>>>>>disk: hd0+
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>>
>>>>>-
>>>>>com0: 19200 baud
>>>>>switching console to com0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 3.01
>>>>>
>>>>>boot> 
>>>>>booting hd0a:/bsd: 5913424+1004644 [52+306864+287943]=0x72a4d4
>>>>>entry point at 0x200120??
>>>>>[ using 595232 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
>>>>>Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
>>>>>      The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
>>>>>Copyright (c) 1995-2008 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  
>>>>>http://www.OpenBSD.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:44:39AM -0700, Chris Babcock wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Eternity wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have a problem with a whole bunch of NET5501:s. I have read some posts 
>>>>>>>with similar problems, but not exactly this, I think, so I post my 
>>>>>>>problem:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On a Cold boot my CF Card is detected:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pri Mas  CF CARD 1GB                     LBA Xlt 983-32-63  990 Mbyte
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Then at boot:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>GRUB loading, please wait...
>>>>>>>Error 25
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>---
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If I press ctrl-p, and at once in combios makes a "reboot" everything 
>>>>>>>works OK, and GRUB can load correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have used lots of net5501 boxes with this distribution (same image 
>>>>>>>file 
>>>>>>>I write to the CF card) without any trouble at all. I have tried 
>>>>>>>upgrading
>>>>>>>BIOS to 1.33c version, but no change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Any ideas? Could it be the flash card? Or some defect on these batch of
>>>>>>>boards?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It could be the flash or a defective board.  If you have a known working 
>>>>>>unit, try swapping the flash into it and see if you get the same 
>>>>>>error.  If another known working unit does the same thing, you probably 
>>>>>>have one of the 5501 boards with issues (RMA to resolve).  If the error 
>>>>>>persists, it's probably bad CF.  One other possibility... Did you image 
>>>>>>the CF or do the install from a different system?  If you did, there are 
>>>>>>often disk geometry issues in the install, which can and often do cause 
>>>>>>issues, esp with boot loaders.  The only safe way to make sure the 
>>>>>>geometry is correct on a load is to load on the exact same type of 
>>>>>>system (so in this case, another 5501).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Grub manual error code link: 
>>>>>>http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage1_002e5-errors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>According to the grub manual Error 25 in stage 1.5 is...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>25 : Disk read error
>>>>>>  This error is returned if there is a disk read error when trying to 
>>>>>>probe or read data from a particular disk.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://lists.soekris.com/mailman/listinfo/soekris-tech
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes that is exactly what I see with my Transcend CF and FreeBSD 6.3
>>>>
>>>>Steve
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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