I have several 4801 and one 5501 with 2.5" user grade disk inside.

On a disk that is mounted together with an Atheros minipci wifi
 board in a 4801, that is just between the motherboard and the disk, I
 start notice many hw error.

Unable to replace the disk, I simply unplug the minipci
 board and the disk start working flawlessy.

So I have a lot of question....

Is the disk that gave errors to be replaced anyway?

The Soekris interfaces placement that 
 make the minipci heat the disk is to be blamed?

The "worst" walue I read the temperature using smartmon is the
 historical lifetime  one or is the max one after the
 last power cycle?

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE
UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   050   059   000    Old_age   Always
-       50

Why this second disk smartmon line  show different temperature in raw
 and value columns? the raw value seems reasonable and the 
 VALUE value seems not reasonable.

D# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   082   073   000    Old_age   Always
-       52


What are a "normal range" of temperatures?

Attached the two complete smartmon listing, just in case.

Many thanks.   Marco

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smartctl version 5.32 Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     ST94019A
Serial Number:    3KW5P55X
Firmware Version: 3.05
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   6
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2
Local Time is:    Sun Aug 31 15:33:57 2008 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82) Offline data collection activity
                                        was completed without error.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                 ( 426) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off 
support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (  31) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   050   047   034    Pre-fail  Always       
-       23905753
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   099   099   000    Pre-fail  Always       
-       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       
-       12
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       
-       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   085   060   030    Pre-fail  Always       
-       355683515
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   070   070   000    Old_age   Always       
-       26968
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   034    Pre-fail  Always       
-       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       
-       316
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       1347
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   001   001   000    Old_age   Always       
-       1482999
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   050   059   000    Old_age   Always       
-       50
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   050   047   000    Old_age   Always       
-       23905753
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      
-       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      
-       0
202 TA_Increase_Count       0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 69 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
        CR = Command Register [HEX]
        FR = Features Register [HEX]
        SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
        SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
        CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
        CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
        DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
        DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
        ER = Error register [HEX]
        ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 69 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 26793 hours (1116 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or 
idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 01 5f 77 df f0  Error: UNC 1 sectors at LBA = 0x00df775f = 14645087

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:32:04.024  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 70 bc d9 f0 00      00:32:04.023  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 80 f6 98 f0 00      00:32:04.022  READ DMA EXT
  35 00 08 88 b3 e1 f0 00      00:32:04.021  WRITE DMA EXT
  35 00 10 28 0c 9a f0 00      00:31:51.989  WRITE DMA EXT

Error 68 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 26793 hours (1116 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or 
idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 01 5f 77 df f0  Error: UNC 1 sectors at LBA = 0x00df775f = 14645087

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:26.708  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 78 36 e6 f0 00      00:31:21.349  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:21.335  READ DMA EXT
  35 00 08 ff f7 2a f0 00      00:31:21.335  WRITE DMA EXT
  35 00 08 67 41 00 f0 00      00:31:51.989  WRITE DMA EXT

Error 67 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 26793 hours (1116 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or 
idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 04 5c 77 df f0  Error: UNC 4 sectors at LBA = 0x00df775c = 14645084

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:26.708  READ DMA EXT
  35 00 08 ff f7 2a f0 00      00:31:21.349  WRITE DMA EXT
  35 00 08 67 41 00 f0 00      00:31:21.335  WRITE DMA EXT
  35 00 08 40 70 99 f0 00      00:31:21.335  WRITE DMA EXT
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:21.334  READ DMA EXT

Error 66 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 26793 hours (1116 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or 
idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 05 5b 77 df f0  Error: UNC 5 sectors at LBA = 0x00df775b = 14645083

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:26.708  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 b0 09 dd f0 00      00:31:21.349  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 30 0c 9a f0 00      00:31:21.335  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:21.335  READ DMA EXT
  35 00 28 3f 41 00 f0 00      00:31:21.334  WRITE DMA EXT

Error 65 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 26793 hours (1116 days + 9 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or 
idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 05 5b 77 df f0  Error: UNC 5 sectors at LBA = 0x00df775b = 14645083

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:26.708  READ DMA EXT
  35 00 28 3f 41 00 f0 00      00:31:21.349  WRITE DMA EXT
  35 00 18 28 70 99 f0 00      00:31:21.335  WRITE DMA EXT
  25 00 08 58 77 df f0 00      00:31:21.335  READ DMA EXT
  25 00 08 28 0c 9a f0 00      00:31:21.334  READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     26860         -
# 2  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     26807         -
# 3  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     26805         -
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     26805         -
# 5  Extended offline    Aborted by host               40%     26804         -
# 6  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     26796         -
# 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     26795         -
# 8  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%     26791         
14645083
# 9  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       80%     26787         
14645083
#10  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%     26784         
14645083
#11  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%     26784         
14645083
#12  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%     26784         
14645083
#13  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       80%     26774         
14645082
#14  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       80%     26774         
14645076
#15  Short offline       Completed without error       00%     26774         -
#16  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%     22661         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     SAMSUNG MP0402H
Serial Number:    S03WJ10A188117
Firmware Version: UC200-16
User Capacity:    40,060,403,712 bytes
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 0
Local Time is:    Sun Aug 31 15:37:32 2008 CEST

==> WARNING: May need -F samsung or -F samsung2 enabled; see manual for details.

SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                 (2400) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off 
support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (  40) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   100   100   051    Pre-fail  Always       
-       18
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   100   100   025    Pre-fail  Always       
-       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   011    Pre-fail  Always       
-       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0024   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      
-       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       
-       758383
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       668
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   082   073   000    Old_age   Always       
-       52
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       172744460
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      
-       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
201 Soft_Read_Error_Rate    0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0
223 Load_Retry_Count        0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       72
225 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   001   001   000    Old_age   Always       
-       1868689
255 Unknown_Attribute       0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       
-       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 1
        CR = Command Register [HEX]
        FR = Features Register [HEX]
        SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
        SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
        CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
        CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
        DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
        DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
        ER = Error register [HEX]
        ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 1 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 6147 hours (256 days + 3 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or 
idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  04 51 00 00 4f c2 f0  Error: ABRT

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  b0 da 00 00 4f c2 f0 00  23d+00:20:33.971  SMART RETURN STATUS
  ec 00 00 c7 72 9a f0 00  23d+00:20:33.971  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  ef 02 00 00 00 00 f0 00      00:00:46.500  SET FEATURES [Enable write cache]
  10 00 3f 00 00 00 f0 00      00:00:45.938  RECALIBRATE [OBS-4]
  91 00 3f 3f ff 3f f0 00      00:00:45.938  INITIALIZE DEVICE PARAMETERS 
[OBS-6]

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  
LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      6176         -
# 2  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      6175         -
# 3  Extended offline    Completed without error       00%      6147         -

SMART Selective Self-Test Log Data Structure Revision Number (0) should be 1
SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 0
Warning: ATA Specification requires selective self-test log data structure 
revision number = 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

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