Hi List,

sorry first for aswering not in a short time, but for this and the other
messages I was asking three 
other peoples first, from them I know exactly one is using not only one net5501
and only on work!!!

Example 1: A Security administartor working in a greater insurance company. 
Many (20 - 25) net5501 with an GB LAN Port PCI card as snort sensors
for Host based IDS (Servers) and Network IDS (Switches)
The boxes are still placed in a closed up rack in a climated server room (0 till
+2 Celsius)
Only one PSU were replaced till today. 
One CF card must also be changed, but this is not couting, because soekris is
not the producer!
The other both opinions, I will show up in the next post, to much and to long so
I will split the posting. 

At their website soekris is telling something about for what the boxes are to
use:
1. Small net services
2. Small routers / servers / vpn / wlan

With low power consuming parts. 

All parts soekris were producing, I mean all the lan and all vpn cards are using
low 
power and don’t overheating the soldered on chips from the cards and the
boards.

Now perhaps some people (surely like me too) were thinking that the cards we
insert in, are
also using low power, but the chips are overheating or the chips are heating to
much
the air inside the case. And in my opinion it dosen´t matter that we opend the
case,
because if a chip is to hot, he is to hot, point. 

So in my opinion soekris is selling hardware for they descript it on their
homepage.
An Intel Pro 1000/GT Desktop adapter as a WAN port many, many people use with
their 
net5501 and they don´t flooding the list with their problem, because they have
to find out
by themselves what is to hot and what runs smooth on the machine.

If I´m informed right their are more then 20.000 sold boards and boxes and I
think it must be 
connected to the hell, that only you got two boxes they are malformed or tuched
by this error.
And if so, why one of this boxes was running with an uptime till over a year? 

Most forums I view from time to time or have a look in are filled with thoose
messages, but never,
I repead, never in direct context with the soekris produced lan and vpn cards,
even with other low 
power, but overheating cards or too many services. 

At this point also it is not unusual thoose people (also likes me, Alvar Kusmar
and many other) are having a look
to other producers like MikroTik or PC Engines (Alix). But Soekris is also
offering on their homepage
also custom made cases made from different materials and there are also from
other vendors and traders like
<www.yawarra.com.au> and <http://soekris.kd85.com>.


Alix - solid aluminium cases 
For smal routers or firewalls amd only at home use please.
If an electrical strike hits the building or 19" rack, the aluminium cases will
smelt in seconds and spread out,
if the rack is not closed with a front door, very hot liquid aliminium. This can
harm human beings and other devices.
And to prevent the employees and devices from damage is also perhaps a
administrative job.
To store this aluminium cases in professional network enviroments or
infrastructures not to be recommend, 
and this only in my opinion.
- Not able to store a hdd inside
- only 256 MB of ram
- No pci slot


MikroTik - metal plate based cases
For professional use or also called productive network systems. 
Hard and software came from one company under one direction and a under one
concept. 
No overheating problems but also not the range and so many options like the
other both above delivering
and serving. Those chips that can be going hot, because the machine is hard in
use are sorted with an passive heat sink
and some of their wlan routers give you the abbility to insert 1 - 5 wlan cards
and no thermal problem.
- Training for the os is expensive 
- don’t let you use much more hardware
- not so many services like other delivers !
- stable and compatible to all supported hardware
- prof. support
- each system needs a licence that must be paid 


Soekris inc. - Solid metal plate based cases
For all, having fun, playing, testing, home use, office use and professional
use. 
>From the day he was soldering the first boards in his living room at home till
today the company was growing up
and also the boards became more powerful. The company is selling boards, cases,
lan and vpn cards and supports 
much operating systems and many, many other hardware.
- for each level of need and use
- low power using 
- spare parts from own production
- nice price
- more ram like alix 
- more powerful then the most MikroTik devices

So in my opinion only the overheating parts like cards from other vendors are
the usual suspects in this game.


 

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