My answer is very short.

Words have meaning.

Software
Defined
Radio

Software defines how the radio functions. It's not a CPU Defined 
Radio or a Program Running Defined Radio. There are people that argue 
that a DSP is not a computer, but they are plain wrong.

Verilog and VHDL are programming languages that can run on your PC or 
define how a FPGA functions. If the FPGA controls the radio, your 
Verilog software is defining how your radio behaves hence SDR.

But so  be it, don't put FPGA's in your SDR radio, I will.

At 07:45 AM 6/14/2006, you wrote:
>I have listed where I have got it and where anybody can get it from, 
>read it and understand what SDR is.
>
>Why do you think it is restrictive?
>
>SDR is an evolution of the traditional concept of a radio.
>Therefore we have to make some distinctions to come to a more 
>detailed understanding of what it is.
>
>For a long time we had analogic radio circuitry only.
>Then some parts have been digitalised as e.g. the VFO with the 
>advent of PLL and its programmable divider stages, the 
>electrooptical tuning knob etc..
>Note, having something digital in a electronic circuit doesn't mean 
>to have software running!
>
>Next it has been introduced the microcontroller to control display 
>circuitry, to electronically switch of various functions (already 
>made of analogic circuits) as mode, PTT, tune and some sort of 
>telecontrol through an interface port (often a RS-232).
>
>At this stage of the radio evolution, SDR is not involved, yet, due 
>to the fact there is still no software signal processing but 
>(tele)control of the radio's hardware parts only.
>
>The successive step relates to the first DSP applications on 
>processing to filter the audio signals coming from the BF stages of a RTX.
>
>This can be considered the first phase of Software Defined Radio 
>because *software processes*, and not simply digital circuits 
>technology!, substitutes a part of the radio circuit.
>
>The further step, and second SDR implementation phase, has been made 
>by the introduction of DSP into the IF stages due to availability of 
>more powerful DSP cores.
>
>I'll underline that remote as local control of circuits has nothing 
>to do with SDR either if it is performed by a PC or by local 
>processors in the RXT box!
>
>SDR is the technology of elaborating the to be received signals 
>through software running on one or more microprocessing units (it is 
>unimportant if it resides on the PC or on a DSP in the radio box).
>
>As I've stated in my precedent e-mails FPGAs are reconfigurable 
>hardware circuits, not software processing units! For this reason 
>FPGA cannot be considered part of an SDR.
>They are *hardware substituting some other hardware* and convenient 
>in a context of a reconfigurable hardware radio.
>The fact they are reconfigured (reprogrammed) using some software on 
>a PC doesn't mean that FPGAs process radio related signals by running software.
>
>In other words, local or remote radio control is not SDR.
>SDR is treating, converting, modifying a received signal by the use 
>of a software program instead of traditional electronic circuitry, 
>nothing else.
>
>If this concepts, in your opinion, aren't still addressing the 
>points then I apology for this and invite you to take a view to the 
>rich documentation I have mentioned before.
>
>vy 73s de Andreas Troschka - ik2wqi
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You missed my point, where did you get your definition of a SDR radio,
> > it seems awfully restrictive.
> >
> > A PC, A DSP, and a FPGA are all controlled by "Software" that defines
> > what they do, so they are all "Software Defined Radios"
> >
>
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com

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