It's not a question of needing more gain but a question of noise so
you need to drive it with a preamp to overcome the noise and still
maintain a low NF and decent MDS.... the 8333 has an IP3 of +30db but
if you put a 10db preamp in front of it then you have an effective
input IP3 of +20db (Still not too bad, just not nearly as good as the
high speed buss switch QSDs)

If you have EMRFD look in the Mixer chapter (If I remember right) and
you see an example of how this works using an NE602 with and without a
preamp as an example

One thing that popped into my head when seeing this IC is using it in
a noise cancelling SDR configuration with one mixer for your main
antenna and the other for a 'sense' antenna ... you'd need a 4 input
soundcard like the Delta44 and as far as I know there isn't any
software out there (yet) for this kind of application but a good
programmer should be able to come up with something that would knock
the socks off of any hardware solution

JR



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> JR
> 
>   Ok, you do not think there is enough gain and this needs a preamp and
> thats undesirable.  Noted.
> 
>   I am wondering if anyone knows of a place on the Internet that
> carries info and files on the parameters of operation as well as
> expectation for such things as the QSD?  Most info is widely scattered.
>  I have the Tayloe circuits but no files of explaination but I suspect
> now there are some somewheres.
> 
>   You brought up the matter of the noise figure and this looks to me to
> be an important study to make.  You learn one new thing and yet here
> comes another.  Maybe the ARRL will have a book if not by now.  I know
> they have the HPSDR project running and a radio ready for market.  
> 
>   If this chip does not measure up then we have to go back to the
> former chips we were looking at.  The balanced mixer idea still looks
> good.  But these are free and will be something to do and learn about
> this winter.
> 
>   The SBL-1 or TUF-1 seems very practicle in the circuits I have seen
> and they do not need any front end pre amplification.  There are more
> ideas on the net with these chips than other chips.  The Time Machine
> circuit was perhaps the best one so far.
> 
>   Ok on trying the single ended input idea with a capacitor to ground.  
> 
> 
> 
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