Hi Jose and all,

> > In your example it would have to be 5 Hz wide. Then the phase of whatever
> > signals that passes the filter is used as the carrier for synchronous AM
> > and FM with the AM modulation to one ear and the FM modulation to the other
> > ear.
> 
> Seems that the instantaneous phase shall be a vector built up with the 
> superposition of all "carrier contributions".
Yes.

> Why did you do that AM in one ear and FM on the other? What are the 
> adventages?
If you have a single local station the FM component will be very
close to zero. The two channels AM and FM have separate AGCs that
are derived from the detected audio signal. As a consequence the gain
in the FM channel becomes VERY high. In case there is another station
on the same frequency you will have a reasonable chance to hear it:-)

> I see one you may not have thought of...monitoring of homebrew 
> transmitters. Here it is important. With a good, clean transmitter with 
> a stable and well isolated VFO the spurious modulation output (either AM 
> of FM) shall be zero.
Oooh! There is a "Transmitter test" option in Linrad:-)

> While building my old homebrew heterodyne phasing transmitter back in 
> 1972, I checked the VFO for pulling listening with a receiver tuned to 
> the VFO frequency, which should remain stable and unmodulated.
Yes. Isolating signals and checking them separately is a very
good idea:-)
> 
> > I would be interested in a recording where the ECSS detector has
> > difficulties. Linrad currently does not provide the corresponding
> > function with a filter to remove one sideband but it would be a fairly
> > easy add-on in case it would give any benefit.
> 
> I don't have any at hand now. Such audio files can be large.
I can provide a site for upload. 
> 
> >  > Regarding to the LF response, I would like to have the lowest possible
> >  > frequency cutoff available, 20 Hz might be a good choice, if it is
> >  > possible to go that low.
> 
> > Do the BC stations really transmit anything that low (close to the 
> > carrier)?
> 
> Yes, at least the studio equipment can go down between 20 and 50 Hz.
> Whether the studio - transmitter links can support that is another 
> story. Nautel transmitters chop the large low frequency peaks to avoid 
> overheating with sustained large peaks. But pulse width modulators and
> pulse step modulators can have excellent low frequency responses, almost 
> impossible to achieve with the old modulation transformers and shunt 
> feed chokes.
And they really use it?

> > What is "lowest possible" is determined by where you want the AGC time
> > constant. The purpose of the AGC is to remove the variations in signal
> > amplitude due to the the interference between signals that travel
> > different distances. Sometimes they are in phase and create a strong
> > signal, sometimes they are out of phase and nearly cancel out.
> 
> Taking that into account, maybe 50 Hz could be a reasonably low limit, 
> imposed by the real performance of small subwoofer systems. I have one 
> of those, and sounds very well. I worked in broadcasting for some years 
> and quality audio can get to be very addictive.
OK. 50 Hz or even 40 Hz seems quite reasonable. 

> > When carriers are spaced at 5 Hz, the QSB rate will be 5 Hz and to
> > make the AGC tune up the gain fast enough during a dip it may be
> > reasonable to allow the AGC to absorb a substantial part of the AM
> > modulation at 20 Hz. Another thing is that the fading may be selective
> > for the amplitude of the entire signal to vary less rapidly or not
> > much at all.
> > 
> > I had no responses on the Linrad AM detector so far. I do not know
> > whether it is because starting to use Linrad is too difficult
> > or whether Linrad does not provide any improvement over existing
> > AM detectors. You may download linrad.exe and run it on a wideband
> > .wav file under any Windows system. Linrad is free and open source
> > and it compiles under Linux Windows as well as under Windows.
> 
> I have not downloaded any recent versions after 2.34. One of the hiccups 
> of my mail provider seems to have caused the suspension of my 
> subscription to the Linrad list. Being busy and forgetful is not a good 
> combination.
The original Linrad list was closed long ago. The current list is at
http://groups.google.com/group/linrad

73

Leif / SM5BSZ

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