Thanks Leif, for the explanation. It does make sense. 

Is it fair to say that 12KHz IF version will not suffer any I/Q
imbalance (phase, amplitude and DC offset)as it is created and
manipulated in digital domain while the I/Q complex base band produced
by analog circuit (component tolerances.

It is still difficult for me to visualise why "direct conversion"
would have twice the bandwidth.

Regards,


--- In [email protected], Leif Asbrink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:10:56 -0000
> "cocokcocok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > What would be the advantage of having baseband complex I/Q signal feed
> > to sound card instead of having direct 12KHz IF signals which can be
> > digitally splitted to I/Q signals for further processing.  
> > TenTec and Winradio with their old models using the later approach as
> > far as I know.
> 
> The problem is the mirror image. One way is to use a filter
> that passes a bandwidth of something like 10 kHz at i.e. 455 kHz.
> 
> That would mean that 455 is converted to 8 kHz while the entire
> passband would be from 3 to 13 kHz. The mirror frequency that
> creates a signal at the end point of the passband would be 6 kHz
> away and a reasonable filter could attenuate it by 80 dB.
> 
> The filter would guarantee freedom from spurs caused by the mirror
> image.
> 
> With direct conversion there would be no high Q filter at RF
frequencies.
> One would feed two wideband audio signals into the soundcard and
> this would increase the useful bandwidth quite a lot. There would
> be a false signal at the image frequency. With 1% components one
> can expect the image level somewhere around -30 to -40 dB. Careful
> balancing with trimmers or by special software procedures is required
> to bring the image spurs to a reasonable level. The advantage with
> "direct conversion" giving I and Q is that the useful bandwidth
> becomes at least two times larger. Typically more depending on
> the shape factor of the filter in use.
> 
> Here is a description of a system with the filter method that uses
> an extreme filter to get nearly the maximum possible bandwidth:
> http://www.sm5bsz.com/pcdsp/hware.htm and particularly the filter
> here: http://www.sm5bsz.com/pcdsp/pcif.htm
> As you can see it takes many crystals to get a usable bandwidth 
> of 20 kHz when sampling at 44.1 kHz - but it can be done.
> The links show my first two-channel receiver in a PC computer.
> Nowadays I use I and Q with a four-channel soundcard.
> 
> 73
> 
> Leif / SM5BSZ
>


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