Wow. I used "XSI" once (by mistake, and I'll correct it in a sec) compared to six uses of Softimage, and somehow the whole blog is referring to XSI? Seriously?!!
And does it really matter? On 13 September 2012 at 14:34 Stephen Davidson <[email protected]> wrote: > I find it strange that the > Autodesk layoffs and Softimage’s future > > blog refers to Softimage as "XSI" > > Just sayin' > > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Andy Nicholas <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > +1000 Yep, well said Jules. The main reason we started up the London > > > user group > > again was to try to inject a bit of positivity into the community. > > Clearly we're > > long overdue another meeting. > > > > Whoever it was who asked why AD wasn't putting out reassurances to > > customers > > about the future of Softimage, probably didn't see this statement from > > Chris > > Vienneau from the 3DPro list that I posted on our site last week: > > http://www.softimagecreatives.com/siclondon/?p=1204 > > <http://www.softimagecreatives.com/siclondon/?p=1204> > > > > The fact is that they're constantly telling us that it's full steam ahead > > with > > Softimage, but people keep on dismissing these comments as Autodesk spin. > > In > > such a situation, what are the guys at AD to do? Damned if they do, > > damned if > > they don't. What could AD possibly say (legally) that would convince you? > > > > There's also a certain amount of wilful misinterpretation going on over > > AD's > > motives which I really don't see as being helpful to anyone and certainly > > doesn't help to push forward the discussion in a productive way. > > > > All that aside, I agree that it would be good if someone at AD would take > > the > > responsibility to update the Softimage customer stories page. We do > > stacks of > > jobs with Softimage at The Mill every year, and I'd be very happy to help > > with > > getting some material together from our end. Someone at AD either just > > has to > > ask, or let me know who I need to talk to. The way I see it; if something > > bothers you, why not try to do something about it. > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > On 13 September 2012 at 09:12 Jules Stevenson <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > I completely agree with this Marc. There is so much negative sentiment > > > in this > > > thread that I'd be surprised if AD is still listening. Some of the > > > folks there > > > are probably pretty proud to work for them and have a genuine interest > > > in > > > Soft, so this thread is painful reading. I don't agree with the > > > marketing of > > > soft at all, but I do still 'evangelize' the product, and will continue > > > to do > > > so until there is something which for us as a studio works better (we > > > jumped > > > from Maya to Soft about 5 years ago and haven't looked back since). > > > If AD were to sink this beautiful ship then so be it. Until that point > > > for > > > the good of my sanity, my crew and my studio, I will continue to push > > > the > > > usage of Softimage, and ignore a small graphic that is very hard to > > > find (I'm > > > on the marketing lists for Max, Maya and Soft, and pretty much every > > > other bit > > > of AD spam plus my reseller) and never personally received or saw it. > > > > > > There is little point in begrudging the AD employees that are doing > > > what they > > > can do with what resources they have to keep soft out there - these are > > > the > > > guys that are 'on our side'. Stating that the software is EOL is also > > > massively counter-productive, it's a lovely juicy soundbite to throw > > > around > > > the office. Shit sticks, even if it's unfounded. > > > > > > The proof of commitment (or not) will be seen in the next release. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Jules > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Marc Brinkley > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > So um, i just thinking that if I were ADSK and was listening to > > > > > this > > > > > conversation > > > > > > > > My existing customers of the software believe the software is EOL > > > > > > > > My existing customers of the software are telling other customers > > > > not to > > > > bother instead of evangelizing the software. > > > > > > > > My customers decide not to believe me when i say we are continuing > > > > to > > > > develop the software even when several members of team directly say > > > > it. > > > > > > > > If I were in their shoes, what do you suppose I would be thinking. > > > > Seems > > > > like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. > > > > > > > > Not directed to anyone specifically. But if we dont believe they > > > > why > > > > should they. > > > > > > > > All things will end eventually, sure, and I am tried of fighting > > > > an up > > > > hill battle, sure. But until I get a letter specifically stating EOL > > > > and > > > > here are my side grade (or ahem, down grade) options to other > > > > software, I > > > > will keep on using it. > > > > > > > > :D > > > > > > > > Sent from my car while driving > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------! 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------! > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: Rob Chapman > > > > Sent: 9/12/2012 1:13 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > <mailto: [email protected] > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > Subject: Re: In case you missed it.. > > > > > > > > So Maurice, > > > > A brave effort with your rhetoric but sadly the results you > > > > achieved are > > > > letting you down. It is exactly what we did not expect or were used > > > > to > > > > before you are your crew took it upon yourselves to remarket > > > > Softimage > > > > within the given framework of M&E apps at AD. Do you think what you > > > > have > > > > done has improved things for the existing Softimage user base? can > > > > you > > > > account for how Softimage has less penetration now in the market as a > > > > fully > > > > featured Application to base an entire pipeline off** and has much > > > > less > > > > 'perceived' value than before you began your current campaign? > > > > > > > > bravo! didnt you do well!? I believe you have failed quite > > > > miserably at > > > > your job and should most definitely be more respectful than 'be happy > > > > with > > > > possible increased sales and deal with it' to those whose value as > > > > professionals within this industry are greatly diminished than they > > > > were 4 > > > > years ago. Are you at all surprised that those you have sacrificed > > > > to the > > > > greater good that is Maya don't want any further business with > > > > Autodesk? > > > > > > > > > > > > **where I work the studio has many hundreds of commercials,3 > > > > short > > > > movies with countless awards and one was bafta nominated this year - > > > > all > > > > made with this measly particle plugin and not a single Maya or Max in > > > > sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12 September 2012 20:41, Maurice Patel > > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Well, we have said that we are committed to developing and > > > > > > > marketing Softimage. It might not be exactly in the way > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > expect but that commitment has been explicitly stated by > > > > > > > myself > > > > > > > and others. The discussion has been about our tactics and > > > > > > > why we > > > > > > > do things the way we do. > > > > > > > > > > Maurice Patel > > > > > Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 <tel:514%20954-7134> > > > > > <tel:514%20954-7134> > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > [mailto: > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > ] On Behalf Of > > > > > Daniel H > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:59 PM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > <mailto: [email protected] > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > > Subject: Re: In case you missed it.. > > > > > Re: "We are very well aware and I and my team work hard to do > > > > > the > > > > > most we can with the resources we have." - Maurice Patel > > > > > > > > > > Seriously Maurice... you have any-time access to "freely" > > > > > speak > > > > > directly to the main vein of the SI community. Does it cost AD > > > > > anything to > > > > > make a simple text statement of confidence on a list, blog, or > > > > > forum? Is > > > > > Autodesk really committed to the future and continuing development > > > > > of > > > > > Softimage? Is Softimage just being used as acquired tech to be > > > > > robbed > > > > > from? It's ok if it's the later, although we won't transition over > > > > > to > > > > > Maya, we'll just counter by transitioning to Houdini. > > > > > > > > > > Do you really want my continued business Maurice? Does > > > > > Autodesk > > > > > really want to keep my business? Should we just get it over with > > > > > and start > > > > > giving our hard-earned money to SideFX? 3D software isn't cheap ya > > > > > know. > > > > > What would you like us to do? Where's a free statement or two of > > > > > "confidence" to keep us investing in Softimage? > > > > > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > VFXM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > Stephen P. Davidson > (954) 552-7956 > [email protected] > <http://www.3danimationmagic.com> > > >
