No and no.

Regardless of the product and the company, business is business.  If your 
company makes printed T-shirts and a particular T-shirt isn't selling, chances 
are the company will stop manufacturing it.  It's common sense.

Use that analogy on Softimage - if people stop buying it, why would AD continue 
development of it?  Duh.

As for upgrades, I never said there wasn't anything worth the upgrade.  What I 
said is there were show stopping issues preventing our upgrade.  Very big 
difference between the two.  We wanted to upgrade because of the new features 
we needed (and requested), but bugs prevented us from making the move.





From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mirko Jankovic
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 2014 New feature list... minor corrections list... you decide

Yes let's think rationally...
What you are kinda saying is let's all be investors so then maybe AD will 
invest in development and all will be happy? Invest in something that so far 
shown really really slow progress...
You alone said that nothing between 7.5 and 2013 wasn't really worth of 
upgrade. What does that tell us?
Years and years developing and only now after couple of them you can update and 
|STILL you alone have to work around...
ooooook? :)

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Matt Lind 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
WTF? (part 2)

I would definitely NOT want to stay on 2010.  Way too many blocking issues and 
bugs.  We just upgraded to 2013 SP1 from Softimage 7.5 as it was the first 
version since 7.5 which gave us the bare minimum feature set that didn't have 
major issues - and even then I had to write a lot of custom code to work around 
known issues.  I'm still looking at newer releases as they come down the pipe 
as there are some pretty serious issues in 2013 SP1 that we cannot live with 
for long.  Hoping 2014 resolves them.

People are already complaining about lack of development of SI.  Customer base 
is what determines how many resources AD puts into the product.  If fewer 
customers pay for support, how much developer time do you think is going to be 
put into the product?  In other words, by not paying you are effectively 
killing the product.  Sure, 3rd parties can supply some fancy plugins, but that 
will only continue as long as there are paying customers to support the 
product, and the 3rd parties ability to support the product is dependent on 
their ability to get access to the necessary components to write their tools.  
If AD doesn't develop the core, the 3rd parties cannot do their work.  One hand 
feeds the other.


Let's think rationally for a change.




From: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Mirko Jankovic
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 11:35 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: 2014 New feature list... minor corrections list... you decide

I'm sure that if other companies see what AD have prepared for lunch in the 
next month or so, they (other companies) will rush in and implement same or 
better in a month or two!!!
I mean cmon who are we kidding :)

And on it is true that 3rd party people brought more improvement's to SI in the 
last coupl eyears than AD did.. so then just simple solution: stop paying subs 
price to AD and start paying guys that actually do improve Softimage :)
I bet that a lot of people would rather still stay on SI 2010 for example with 
fresh income of upgrades from Exocortex and rest of the crew. Mentioning 
Exocortex too much but it would  huge list to go over everyone we all know who 
are they and we are all thankful for keeping SI great... without them lets 
admit SI would be a lot lesser than it is now....

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Emilio Hernandez 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Well that sure is something people using Houdini appreciate and we using AD 
products regret.   Perhaps updates are so Top Secret that AD doesn't want other 
software companies to see what's coming up...   More of the same.  In the 
meantime we can only hope that NEW IMPROVEMENTS  to Softimage are coming.  
Something like now you can have in Maya the Softimage color scheme and vs., ...
But for some small things actually the way Softimage is now with the 
participation of Exocortex, Eric Mootz, and the other addons that are coming 
out, I think that there is not too much to improve...

2013/3/14 Mário Domingos 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
This is an example of a proper software update.

http://www.sidefx.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2447&Itemid=360
Mário Domingos

www.mariodomingos.com<http://www.mariodomingos.com>


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On 14/03/2013, at 17:10, Doeke Wartena 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I would like if you can see the size of objects so it's easier to make models 
for 3d printing.

2013/3/14 Francois Lord <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
+1


On 14/03/2013 09:45, Eric Lampi wrote:
Guys,

Don't you think it's better to just wait for the list to be released before 
getting too worked up over it?




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