On the other hand Titan is more expensive than 2 gtx680 if I'm not
mistaken... and i bet that with two 680 in SLI, when multi GPU is supported
you will have better performance than with 1 titan right?


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Tim Leydecker <bauero...@gmx.de> wrote:

> The GTX Titan is not a gimmick but uses the successor to the chip series
> used in the GTX 680, e.g. the GT(X) 6xx series uses the GK104, while
> the GTX Titan uses the GK110. You can find the GK110 in the Tesla K20, too.
>
> You could describe the GTX690 as a gimmick, as it uses two GK104 on one
> card
> to maximize performance at the cost of higher powerconsumption, noise and
> heat.
>
> The performance gain between a GTX680 and a GTX Titan is roughly 35%
> and can be felt nicely when using it with higher screenresolutions like
> 1920x1200 or 2560x1440 and higher antialiasing in games.
>
> That´s where the 6GB VRAM of the GTX Titan come in handy, too.
>
> Cheers,
>
> tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27.03.2013 05:24, Raffaele Fragapane wrote:
>
>> Benchmarking is more driver tuning than it's videocard performance, and if
>> you want to look at number crunching you should look at the most recent
>> gens.
>>
>> The 680 has brought nVIDIA back up top for number crunching (forgetting
>> the
>> silver editions or gimmicks like the titan), and close enough to bang for
>> buck best, but AMD's response to that still has to come.
>>
>> Ironically, though, the 6xx gen is reported as a crippled, bad performer
>> in
>> DCC apps, although I can't say I noticed it myself. It sure as hell works
>> admirably well in mudbox, mari, cuda work, and I've had no issues in maya
>> or soft. I don't really benchmrak or obsess over numbers much though.
>>
>> When this will obsolesce, I will considering AMD again, probably in a
>> couple years.
>>
>> For GPU rendering though, well, that's something you CAN bench reliably
>> with the engine, and AMD might still win the FLOP per dollar run there, so
>> it's not to be discounted.
>>
>> Would be good to know what the redshift guys have to say about it
>> themselves though if they can spare the thought and can actually disclose.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Mirko Jankovic
>> <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>**wrote:
>>
>>  well no idea about pro cards.. really never got financial justification
>>> to
>>> get one, quadro 4000 in old company didn;t really felt anything much
>>> better
>>> than gaming cards so...
>>> but in gaming segment..
>>> opengl scores in sinebench for example:
>>> gtx 580: ~55
>>> 7970: ~90
>>>
>>> to start with....
>>> not to mention annoying issue with high segment rotating cube in viewport
>>> in SI.
>>> 7970 smooth at ~170 fps
>>> with gtx580 bfore that.. to point out that the rest of comp is identical
>>> only switched card... for the first 30-50sec frame rate was stuck at
>>> something like 17 fps... and after that it kinda jump to ~70-80fps...
>>>
>>> in any case with gaming cards ati vs nvidia there is no doubt. and if you
>>> are not using CUDA much then no need to even thing which way to go.
>>> Now redshift is game changer heheh but I'm still hoping that OpenCL will
>>> be supported and I'm looking forward to test it out with two of 7970 in
>>> crossfire :)
>>>
>>> btw I'm not much into programming waters but is it really
>>> OpenCL programming  that as I understood should work on ALL cards, is
>>> that
>>> much more complex than for CUDA which is limited to nvidia only? Wouldn't
>>> it be more logical to go with solution that is covering a lot more market
>>> than something limited to one manufacturer?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Arvid Björn <arvidbj...@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> My beef with ATI last time I tried FirePro was that it had a hard time
>>>> locking into 25fps playback in some apps, as if the refresh rate was
>>>> locked
>>>> to 30/60. Realtime playback in Softimage would stutter annoyingly IIRC.
>>>> Plus it seemed to draw text slightly differently in some apps.
>>>>
>>>> Nvidia just feels.. comfy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Raffaele Fragapane <
>>>> raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  These days if you hit the right combination of drivers and planet
>>>>> alignment they are OK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Performance wise they have been ahead of nVIDIA for a while in number
>>>>> crunching, the main problem is the drivers are still a coin toss
>>>>> chance,
>>>>> and that OCL isn't anywhere as popular as CUDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> With win7 or 8 and recent versions of Soft/Maya they can do well.
>>>>>
>>>>> nVIDIA didn't help with the crippling of the 6xx for professional use,
>>>>> and pissing off Linus. They are still ahead by a slight margin, for
>>>>> now,
>>>>> but I wouldn't discount AMD wholesale anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the next generation is as disappointing as Kepler is, and AMD gets
>>>>> both Linux support AND decent (and properly OSS) drivers out, I'm
>>>>> moving
>>>>> time come for the next upgrade. For now I recently bought a 680
>>>>> because it
>>>>> was kind of mandatory to not go insane with Mari and Mudbox, and
>>>>> because I
>>>>> like CUDA and I toy with it at home.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Dan Yargici <danyarg...@gmail.com
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  "Ati was tested over and over and showing a lot better viewport
>>>>>> results
>>>>>> in Softimage than nvidia... "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?  I don't remember anyone ever suggesting ATI was anything
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> than shit!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DAN
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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