Likewise, anybody used Katana?
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:52 PM, Sebastian Kowalski <[email protected]> wrote: > do I hear fabric engine? > > > > Am 31.07.2013 um 00:36 schrieb Matt Lind <[email protected]>: > > I would question whether a one-size fits all application is relevant > anymore. **** > > The current 3 applications were designed and developed in the 1990s, but > the industry has evolved quite a bit since then. Even Softimage’s > ‘Sumatra’ propaganda advertised it as a product for ‘the next ten years’. > We’re well beyond that now. Mobile, 3d printing, interactive spaces, etc.. > have all emerged and need 3d content. While Autodesk’s big 3 can be used, > they aren’t necessarily tailored for those markets. The big 3 are strongly > rooted in film/video and some games. What’s needed to today is a > collective rethink.**** > > I think what’s needed today is a host application to act as a point of > assembly and layout. It performs the basic tasks of scene construction and > metadata packaging, but from that point on acts as a hub for other > applications whether they be commercial or privately developed. While > smaller studios and one-man efforts would probably prefer an integrated > solution like they are available today, as data scales up it will be > difficult to continue that paradigm and still be competitive over the long > term.**** > > Is Autodesk up to the task? It’ll probably be years before we know the > answer.**** > > > Matt**** > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:softimage- > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Andy Moorer > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:42 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Future of Naiad**** > ** ** > I would be totally open to a new application from AD if it takes some of > the best ideas of the 3 apps. Heck call it Maya thats fine. My problem is > however that AD does not seem to have a pattern of making choices based on > ensuring the best results for their customers. If their next-gen app suits > their needs and tosses what makes a tool like softimage brilliant they're > wasting their time developing. **** > ** ** > Does AD actually have the culture and good sense to allow their no doubt > good and highly skilled devs to really conceptualize and create a "best of > all three" next generation DCC? Without a bunch of suits getting involved > and trying to shape it towards their idea of what will make the most money? > **** > ** ** > I suspect AD is suffering from terminal "droids in suits" syndrome.**** > ** ** > > ** ** > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Kris Rivel <[email protected]> wrote:* > *** > This is a depressing thread! After going through Graham's email...hoping > to see one mention of Soft...and finding nothing...I'm left feeling pretty > bummed out. This idea that Autodesk can market one app to one type of > industry vs. the other is ridiculous. Studios and artists pick what they > know, or have available, not what some corporation "says" fits the bill. > All three products have proven themselves just fine doing games, movies > and commercials. Its funny though. The past few weeks I've spoken to so > many "converted" or multi-app artists that use maya, max, c4d or some combo > because they can't get enough Soft work. BUT...the funny thing is that > each and everyone complains how frustrating it is when they know they could > do it in Soft so much easier. Its hysterical....and sad at the same time. > Its the little engine that could and "did" but ultimately was pushed aside > because of bad marketing, buy-outs and corporate BS. **** > ** ** > Expecting them to keep all three alive, well and generally the same though > is probably not reality and if they are planning on that...well...they're > going to lose the entire M&E industry because others are creeping up with > some very cool stuff. I personally am leaning towards Houdini and other > niche apps. The only thing keeping everyone paying that damn maintenance > fee to get upgraded is because its still the industry default and like > photoshop...unavoidable...but only for now.**** > ** ** > If I was Autodesk, I would focus on something truly next gen. Something > cloud and subscription based that combines the best of all 3 in a whole new > way..."one application to rule them all". **** > > Kris**** > > ** ** > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Scott Lange <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > LOL**** > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Lampi > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Future of Naiad**** > > "No PR department has, in history, ever been able to prevent a cluster of > twats from speculating wildly and working themselves into nerd-rage. If one > was ever invented it would have to be either an armed force with right to > extreme prejudice in applying force, or an act of God, or possibly both." > > This belongs on a plaque somewhere. > > Eric > > Freelance 3D and VFX animator > > http://vimeopro.com/user7979713/3d-work > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Raffaele Fragapane > <[email protected]> wrote: > > No PR department has, in history, ever been able to prevent a cluster > > of twats from speculating wildly and working themselves into > > nerd-rage. If one was ever invented it would have to be either an > > armed force with right to extreme prejudice in applying force, or an act > of God, or possibly both. > > > > Mind, AD is often cryptic and confused in comm beyond what the usual > > "within the quarter" corporate rule would excuse, that we can all > > agree on, but no matter the amount of information that gets rolled > > out, "people" will always speculate and work things into re-inforcing > > whatever scenario they want to believe. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Steven Caron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> they, you, need a better PR department. > >> > >> it is simple, don't give us reason to speculate so wildly. > >> > >> *written with my thumbs > >> > >> On Jul 24, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Graham Bell <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> I'm saying nothing more, though if anyone wants to pvt me, then feel > free. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship > > it and let them flee like the dogs they are! > > **** > ** ** > > >
