Nope. I tried 'Autodesk Sucks' and got a facebook page instead. No ad.
Matt From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Crouzet Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:34 PM To: Softimage Mailing List Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! Apart of saying that we've got the biggest, does it really matter that Fabric Engine doesn't favor Softimage or any specific app at all? Knowing that I can code high performance stuff in Fabric and that I can use it in whatever 3D softwares still alive at a certain time sounds pretty neat to me as it is. As for the future, sorry but I don't own a crystal ball _yet_! I'm living in the present and take things as they come, ready to react... for now, I thought that it would be a pretty good time to have a break from that industry and so far I'm enjoying the view, maybe you guys should do the same instead of stressing out! :) Btw, do you guys know the algorithm behind the Google Ads? Because you know, it could potentially return an ad even though you search for "Autodesk in my pants". On 9 August 2013 00:08, Stephen Davidson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: to take it one step further.... If you click on the Maya link, and then click on "products" at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well.... But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) ________________________________ From: Stephen Davidson [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:20 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for "Autodesk Softimage". What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. 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