I can not be certain since I'm not going to take the time for signing up
and evaluating it, but, based on a couple of frames that I paused at,
Gamestar Mechanic appears to have a similar "sentence" structure to Kodu
game lab. Its obvious hook is that they have a course associated with it (I
have no idea what quality the course it though)

There is a decent community with Game Maker and plenty of tutorials out on
the internet (although I know it is not the same thing) and it is fairly
cheap at around $50 http://www.yoyogames.com/gamemaker/studio/standard

Also, depending on what your daughter is after, a colleague of mine
suggested RPG Maker (although it is heavily geared to RPG creation)
http://www.rpgmakerweb.com/ and it is reasonable as well at $70




On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Paul Griswold <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Wow!  Thanks guys for all the options!  Several of these seem like they'd
> be perfect for her.
>
> One that I came across was Gamestar Mechanic.  Does anyone have an opinion
> on it?  The thing that attracted me to it is, they are doing an online
> training series for kids ages 9-14.  It's not cheap - $199.  But I like the
> idea of holding her accountable to someone other than her mother and
> myself.  They claim they have "game experts" who work with the kids over
> the course of 4 Units to help them develop their own game.
>
> I'm going to have to make a list of all these and sit down to review them
> all & narrow it down to a couple of choices and let her pick.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Eric Turman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I too have a daughter (Giselle) just about your daughter's age --as well
>> as son almost three years older (Jean-Luc)-- who are interested in creating
>> games. I'm including the age that Giselle started using the programs to
>> give you a frame of reference on how accessible the various programs are.
>>
>> *Game Maker:*
>> While it does have some substantial limitations dealing with surfaces,
>> I'd have to strongly recommend Game Maker; my daughter was making up her
>> own games with it when she was 7. It is a complete all-in-one tool. There
>> are also published books (specifically addressing Game Maker) available
>> with CD content of each stage of development of many games. Game maker
>> abstracts programming concepts nicely for the young programmer through
>> parameter-populated iconic program blocks. Once she has mastered the logic,
>> there are scripting icons that will allow her to do pure scripting.
>> Spelunky was made using Game maker and the source project is available to
>> learn from:  http://spelunkyworld.com/original.html  I have been helping
>> my son work through these books an independent study course. On a side
>> note, Jean-Luc has been using Game Maker's editor to design some clever
>> puzzles as well as contributing to core game mechanics for an upcoming
>> indie puzzle-platformer that a game designer/programmer friend, Steven
>> Kiesewetter, and I are working on. (although we are looking to port it over
>> to Unity due to the aforementioned performance limitations of Game Maker on
>> lower end hardware.)
>>
>> *Kodu Game Lab:*
>> Another great "engine/frameworks" that my daughter loved using around 5-6
>> years old was http://fuse.microsoft.com/projects/kodu This takes an even
>> simpler approach to game creation by "coding" the behaviors and controls in
>> picture "sentences" that live under each game object. Kodu does this
>> through a rotary-branching menu system;  Giselle would fly through the
>> menus, faster than I could keep up with, creating behaviors for in game
>> agents and player input. It enabled her to code all sorts of games and
>> stories using just the Xbox controller. Its obvious hook is that is makes
>> creating 3D games very easy.
>>
>> *Scratch:*
>> MIT has created a fantastic way to introduce programming to children
>> through a simple drag & drop interface http://scratch.mit.edu/ Giselle
>> was into this pretty heavily when she was 8 although it never captured
>> Jean-Luc's imagination.
>>
>> *Spore Galactic Adventures:*
>> This is a straight up game with an editor, but it deserves a mention from
>> the standpoint that it is very easy to create a variety of creature looks
>> as well as create stories that can be shared. This has had a hold on
>> Giselle for few week bursts over the last year. Depending on what your
>> daughter wants to do with game creation this may be of interest to her.
>>
>> I hope sharing some of my family's personal experience was helpful for
>> you.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -=Eric
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Doeke Wartena <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> hammer for halflife 1 is quite easy. It would require the dad to set up
>>> to make sure compiling works and textures are loaded.
>>> After that you could create a block she can copy and paste and so on
>>> learn here more and more.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/8/26 Andres Stephens <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>>  I wouldn't be into 3d if my dad didn't help me get off games and onto
>>>> doing something "productive" when I was younger! I owe him one.
>>>>
>>>> My friend on another forum I use compiled a list of free game engines
>>>> and classified them roughly on their ease of use. Very extensive, but a
>>>> good way to start.
>>>>
>>>> www.united3dartists.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3687&start=0
>>>>
>>>> Hope you find the right program, or game..... Like little big planet.
>>>> You can make mini games or custom levels in that.
>>>>
>>>> Keep being awesome.
>>>>
>>>> -Draise
>>>>
>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>>
>>>> From: "Ognjen Vukovic" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: August 26, 2013 8:01 AM
>>>> To: "robw" <[email protected]>, "softimage" <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: OT: my 10 year old wants to "make games"
>>>>
>>>>  Rob that seems quite cool for young children to get into programing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Rob Wuijster <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I recently came across this:
>>>> http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/kodu/
>>>> http://fuse.microsoft.com/projects/kodu
>>>>
>>>> Apparently from 8 and up....
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> \/-------------\/----------------\/
>>>>
>>>>  On 26-8-2013 14:47, Paul Griswold wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  My 10 year old daughter has expressed an interest in making her own
>>>> games.  As a typical 10 year old she doesn't have the patience to sit and
>>>> type code out of a book to make a tic-tac-toe game.  I think she's still at
>>>> the age where she needs to see more immediate (and cool) results.
>>>>
>>>>  So, does anyone know of any online, kid-friendly, game building apps
>>>> that might at least teach her some basic concepts?
>>>>
>>>>  The one I'm leaning towards is Scratch, but there are just hundreds
>>>> of other options out there and I have no idea what's good and what sucks.
>>>>
>>>>  Anyone have a favorite they'd recommend?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>  Paul
>>>>
>>>>  P.S. if it makes any difference, her favorite game is Minecraft.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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