Here's a rant for you people. :) ------------- I think people wants to be blind forever. There's no war or anger around, is just facts. We all know that Autodesk is a solid company but at the same time it's the industry joke.
I would applaud Autodesk development if i see something that's really new, not something that has been around years ago; that's not what big companies do. They kill Softimage to have their resources, right? And the Maya development team where is it? Why they need to kill Softimage to fusion people from there to the Maya team? For what? I haven't seen an increase in NEW things since that happen. Where's the creativity of doing something that no one has? Where is it? Where is the healthy competition? Maya + Softimage teams together and where's the one and only Maya? I haven't seen it. How many devs are in that team? 1 or 2? There must be at least 20 people working in the team by now and maybe more. Where is the money going? To the CEO? damn people.. open your eyes. Softimage is just an example, go to the past and see all the stuff Autodesk was doing to all those amazing software's they bought, year by year. Do you still blind? Ok. Now here's another "New feature" Autodesk is selling for Maya. ok ok... It's nice, right? Holy sh...!! It's Mudbox inside of Maya. Ok ok , is nothing, is just a little taste of the "FUTURE". Are you still blind? C'mon.. Let's see Mudbox development, since Mud2012 there has been no Good development or updates, we only see few stuff, every year less and less. You know how many we have for this year? 4 New things in Mudbox! Yeah!! - Relax Brush - Twist Brush - Sculpting Falloff options - Better brush-based workflows Really? 4 NEW ...kind of somet... Oh give me a break, those are dumb updates! One guy could make better plugins for it, ONE guy! Throw money and 2 more guys willl create an entire new mudbox! Where are all the bug fixes? Where is the Z-spheres look a like? Where are the Real brushes? And so on.. That's the FUTURE??? Oh one more thing, Mudbox to Softimage, is NO Longer there awww :( Ok ok...that's no important, right? And you know what it's coming next?? Yeahh Killing Mudbox and integrate that in the one and only toolcrap Maya! I'm so sorry if i not buying this joke! Mudbox needs a lot of improvements! Maya.. ohh sweet lord of Mayans... that software it's good superficially i really like that until i began to go inside... and then it just CRASH, of course it has the most satanic workflows i've ever seen! Going from point A to B, requires more than 3 steps to get there, sometimes MORE. It's slow as hell, and what about the LONG TIME BUGS? Do you have a List Autodesk? THEre's TONS of those, TONS!.. That's the reality. They sell you bananas and blind people keep eating them. When Autodesk stop trying to sell us Old things as "NEW", then i will applaud them and be happy to scream.. "At last !!" When Autodesk stop trying to not-be-competitive and began to-be-competitive, then i'll applaud them! When Autodesk give us something NOBODY has and put all those creative devs to work in something no other apps have implemented yet, something others will never have.. then.. THEN i'll applaud them. And for Christ sake when i open Maya for my second time... if i don't see any error in the Output window, then... only then.. I'll cry of joy! Until them, Autodesk for me is just a monopoly-company who thinks people are stupid ! Are you still blind? pd: sorry for my eng. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:08 AM, Tim Leydecker <bauero...@gmx.de> wrote: > That video gave some very thrilling insights and the presentation style by > Andrew was > very enjoyable, too. > > The handling of self-intersections and fusing of surfaces into a unified > shell is really desireable, > especially if it doesn´t inflict a modification of the entire surface > topology but is a more localized > effect, compared to a dynamesh workflow that can easily destroy surface > details when resurfacing > elements into a combined result. > > The entire modeling process shown, even in this early stage, seemed very > fluid, intuitive and desireable. > > Like clay. > > I can very well understand the frustration about the realities of working > with many of the tools implemented > in Maya and am finding myself with the general impression that more often > than not, a tool or workflow will > be developed only so far, then ressources seem to be drained and focus is > put on something else, leaving > the user with a toolset that can cost a lot of time to realize it won´t > solve the problem given as understood. > > Like needing to clean up the house. You get a Broom and even a Dustpan > but the Dustpan has been knotted > to the Broomstick using a nice cord but that cord is to short. Cutting > that cord breaks the stick but not cutting it breaks > the desired workflow of sweeping the dust with the broom into the pan. The > suggested workaround is to use two > sets of "Broom&Pan", one to sweep up and one to catch the dust with the > pan. Four hands required or performance may suffer... > > This kind of development result is not unique to Maya. > > We have an airport in progress here in Berlin that suffers from the same > 21st century approach to problem solving. > > Breaking up things into seemingly simple tasks, making a bullet point list > and then just checking off each of those tasks when completed > doesn´t automatically result in a working result at the end. That´s just > 21st century pencil pushing and leads to depreciated results, > completely ingoring any higher levels of task dependencies for a > successful completion. > > That´s not the fault of the worker bee. > > It´s the fault of the guy signing off the budget based on a bullet points > simply omitting: > > -quality control > - test > - additional r&d > - test > - v 2.0 > - test > - ... > > from that bulletpoint list. > > That´s the cost intensive, tedious and boring part of creating a > Broom&Pan that may actually work as needed, > even if all that has changed in the end is that finally, the cord is > longer. It can be very tempting to instead go ahead, > ignore the Pan problem completely and just sweep things under the rug... > > > Cheers, > > tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 17.08.2015 um 03:10 schrieb Perry Harovas: > > I agree Martin, > > I actually really respected the presentation and thought it looked good. > I don't know what all the anger is about with regards to this > presentation... > > For God sake Andrew is a modeler. He is one of us. > He makes really great points here, and the tech looks interesting. > > > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:27 PM, Martin <furik...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not happy with their decisions, prices and now rental services but is >> it really necessary to bash Autodesk for every single thing they do? >> >> This time I don't see what they are doing wrong. They are developing >> something and showing a preview video. >> >> Martin >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2015/08/16, at 20:59, Mirko Jankovic < <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> >> mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Cesar, development is nothing without completing full working usable >> product. >> Nice PR video is nothing if you cannot use the tool in daily production >> without pulling your hair. If it isn't polished tool that you can relay on >> in production then it is just nice PR video. nothing else. >> >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:39 PM, < <mikael.petter...@gmail.com> >> mikael.petter...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Looks very cool, actually! >>> >>> Skickat från min iPhone >>> >>> 16 aug 2015 kl. 11:07 skrev Cesar Saez <cesa...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> I think you guys are missing the point, the talk is not necessarily >>> about maya but the evolution of modeling tools and where new developments >>> are going to. >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 5:49 PM, Mirko Jankovic < >>> <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com>mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Frankenstein with bunch of parts that doesn't work really well on e >>>> with another and falling apart.... vision off Maya >>>> >>>> Just keep slapping items to fill PR announcements how cool things are >>>> being made, but in reality they are good for nothing >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Tenshi . < <tenshu...@gmail.com> >>>> tenshu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So you're waiting for the Maya 2017 to have this? or this comes in the >>>>> 2016? >>>>> >>>>> Anyway i don't think Autodesk will go the for the 'real development' >>>>> route. They've never did something that users could enjoy in the time it >>>>> was needed the most. S if you want a 3D software that can do the same with >>>>> good framerate, good integration, go back to 2002, maybe before that year >>>>> with plugins, >>>>> >>>>> Oh btw Maya shows more errors when i open it, not again! Does this >>>>> "Mudbox Plugin" will do that as well? Oh wait a second this is Mudbox in >>>>> Maya? Oh sh...!! I haven't notice your Excellent "Vision" for the future >>>>> Autodesk, i'm so sorry. >>>>> >>>>> We can add Mudbox to the death apps list now? =/ >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Pierre Schiller < >>>>> <activemotionpictu...@gmail.com>activemotionpictu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They had to 2X speed because even with monstrous cards couldn´t have >>>>>> been possible to showcase. HAHHAHAH!! >>>>>> My stomach aches. >>>>>> Modo had been on sculpting for the past 3 years even on low end cards. >>>>>> And I bet for the mayans, in time all they will use that sculpting >>>>>> module, will be to crack and bake cracked walls sculpts. >>>>>> Just sayin´... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 3:07 PM, pedro santos < <probi...@gmail.com> >>>>>> probi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSx4a0tDQw&feature=youtu.be&t=465> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdSx4a0tDQw&feature=youtu.be&t=465 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Integration is the word here. As we've seen bits of things in many >>>>>>> places but not under the same package room using the same standard >>>>>>> package >>>>>>> tricks. Not hot for Maya, and one still needs to see how they keep artsy >>>>>>> people working on the surface without having to immediately deal with >>>>>>> Maya's entrails, but looks good. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Portfolio 2013 <http://be.net/3dcinetv> >>>>>> Cinema & TV production >>>>>> Video Reel <https://vimeo.com/3dcinetv/reel2012> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > > > > > > Perry Harovas > Animation and Visual Effects > > http://www.TheAfterImage.com <http://www.theafterimage.com/> > > -25 Years Experience > -Member of the Visual Effects Society (VES) > > >
