For new machines we're going for supermicro.

https://www.supermicro.nl/products/system/4U/7048/SYS-7048GR-TR.cfm

We always had HP Z800-840 - Since we were doing more and more jobs on redshift his workstations are the best machines we ever had.

A

On 07/06/2017 14:02, Rob Wuijster wrote:

I agree, although some of my friends who are into 2D design and a tad of AfterEffects will probably running to the store as soon as they can get their hands on it ;-)

Rob

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On 7-6-2017 13:45, Jonathan Moore wrote:
Now more than ever I think of OS X and Apple hardware as the luxury end of the consumer PC market. There’s so much about OS X that I prefer to Windows but I’m also aware that I’m paying an extreme premium for the experience.

However, It’s been a long time since I’ve considered Apple hardware to be an optimal choice for creative professionals per se, never mind 3d professionals. The iMac Pro is a lustful piece of consumer electronics for sure but it would be a exceptionally odd choice for a 3d professional.

On 7 Jun 2017, at 12:17, Christopher Crouzet <christopher.crou...@gmail.com <mailto:christopher.crou...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Something to consider beyond the hardware is the software.

During the years that I've been using MacOS, Apple often shined at only supporting outdated OpenGL versions in their OS, or poorly implementing it. To make things worse, they decided to go their own way with their Metal API without providing any support for Vulkan (unless I missed something). I don't think many developers are willing to write their software using the Metal API to boost rendering performances when the 3D market is fairly small on Mac.

Surely it's a bit cocky from them to be boasting their graphics marketing when they seem to be hated by graphics developers.


On 7 June 2017 at 17:37, Rob Wuijster <r...@casema.nl <mailto:r...@casema.nl>> wrote:

    One of the first reviews, and it's not really a glowing one:

    
https://www.slashgear.com/imac-pro-still-doesnt-give-the-one-thing-pros-want-06487652/
    
<https://www.slashgear.com/imac-pro-still-doesnt-give-the-one-thing-pros-want-06487652/>

    Rob

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    Unfortunately Apple has defined pro market to mean , FCP X and
    a little bit of after effects. Its the only reason I can think
    of for some of the dumb decisions made in the last two years.
    Up to and including today.

    At least dell gives decent EDU discounts. Going to make the
    move from apple far less painful for us

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    Heheheh thanks everyone. I’m not so much using powerful pcs
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    Apologies for this slight digression into the benefits of
    2012-2014 generation Zseries workstations but the final good
    points about them is that they're built like tanks with top
    drawer components so they’re less risk than many other second
    hand purchases. The total cost for my three Zseries
    workstations was under £2k (GPU’s on top) so that’s a heap of
    processing power for the budget (96 threads running at 3.1
    Ghz). And E5-6670’s are incredibly efficient too so running
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    simulations. Although running 9 GPU’s across three workstations
    for rendering chews through the juice.


    So back to the original point of the iMac Pro. There are far
    better ways to spend your cash!  :)


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        As you can see plenty of PCIe Gen3 x16 and x8’s as long as
        you go for a dual processes build.


        Dual E5-2670 based systems won’t best a latest & greatest
        i7 for GPU rendering but if you pick up a system (or
        preferably multiple systems) at the right price, you’re get
        something that performs well both on CPU simulations and on
        GPU rendering duties.


        http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04400043.pdf
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            I thought those z workstations had pretty old mobos.
            They only had pcie 2 slots. And at 8x or somthing like
            that which seems quite unremarkable for gpu rendering.
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