Maybe considering also the screen size and format. Most 4k displays are at least 16:9 or even wider (21:10?) For my taste far too wide and doesn't match the way I work. For animating I prefer to have Fcurves/dopesheet/mixer below my viewport so I'd need more height than width. Of course we can create own layouts for XSI to make use of any format. My next monitors will be a pair of Eizos square format monitors. They have only 1920x1920 pixel but that's enough for me.
Sven -----Original Message----- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Lind Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 2:58 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's Yes, there are advantages to any new technology, but the question is whether those advantages are "needed" at the premium price of being an early adopter? If you're trying to control costs and be practical, the answer is usually no. Waiting a little bit and buying when the price comes down is often a better use of money. I would love to have a new fangled computer with 10 processors each with 100 cores and multiple graphics cards with SLI linkage and VR everything, but do I need it? no. My 10 year old computer still functions just fine for my purposes. In some ways, it's better as it exposes bottlenecks in my code more readily than a faster computer which is so much more efficient it effectively masks the problems I need to find and eradicate. Not saying don't buy a 4K monitor. Just saying it isn't needed for the purpose given. Matt Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 12:47:40 +0100 From: Mirko Jankovic <mirkoj.anima...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation. Well actually 4k monitor does have it's advantages. Nice big viewport where you can see all those details better is already a plus, but having extra space to fire up graph editor and maybe some GUI controls if they are available.. it helps. Honestly I wouldn't go back to smaller... As a matter of fact I'm even thinking about waiting for cintiq 32 inch 4k to move to that. But need to figure out if it is worth all the cache :) On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 12:00 PM, Matt Lind <speye...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Animators generally don't need 4K monitors as they mostly work in > wireframe or shaded mode only care about broad details such as feet > penetrating the floor. Details like that are clearly visible even on > 1080p monitors. > Even > if they aren't, primitive rig devices can be set up to make it > obvious, such as putting a colored plane where penetration may occur, > or applying an expression to raise a flag. Just examples. > > Artists working with color and lighting, on the other hand, may need > 4K monitors. > > Matt > > > > > > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:54:40 -0500 > From: "Leoung O'Young" <digim...@digimata.com> > Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K? > > I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation. > > > ------ > Softimage Mailing List. > To unsubscribe, send a mail to softimage-requ...@listproc.autodesk.com > with "unsubscribe" in the subject, and reply to confirm. > -- Mirko Jankovic *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2 Djankovic&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCL YPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuck JbZk&s=2mlat73IQAjldTkK6qOsWgn26997gC9R1xwS4RBRUjU&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cgfolio.com_mirko-2 Djankovic&d=DwIBaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCL YPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuck JbZk&s=2mlat73IQAjldTkK6qOsWgn26997gC9R1xwS4RBRUjU&e=>* Need to find freelancers fast? www.cgfolio.com Need some help with rendering an Redshift project? https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gpuoven.com_&d=DwIBa Q&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNV wo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=kFH_WPLP3bizDVMXireAaS_3EzrzZz7qF_ybuckJbZk&s=m3tGpzm_Oh VokJsNYYKSQAnvvNzMr6puUkS1qUUN-IQ&e= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listproc.autodesk.com/pipermail/softimage/attachments/20180125/f4549b 1b/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2018 14:37:15 +0100 From: Alex Doss <alexd...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Softimage 2015 R1 Redshift and 4K? To: "Official Softimage Users Mailing List. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__groups.google.com_forum _-23-21forum_xsi-5Flist&d=DwIFAw&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2 pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529RohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=X908I5RsJddq3HqXq1hz62Lup PPCATcVlWpto6s-CWI&s=zhpqv44U92ketTHORJ8RzvaLZTGgIuzntYyHHRHk9JQ&e=" <softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> Message-ID: <cakjrrlfvni8kzmvquvbn96ex_hwzdyhgmjq+b+olmdiwupu...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" U have to be real quick now. The "funny" thing is that Nvidia is at least trying to regulate the situation. Funny, in quotes, coz its just unrealistic for it to try and regulate that: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.polygon.com_2018_1_ 23_16921356_nvidia-2Dgraphics-2Dcards-2Dsold-2Dout-2Dcryptocurrency-2Dminers &d=DwIFaQ&c=76Q6Tcqc-t2x0ciWn7KFdCiqt6IQ7a_IF9uzNzd_2pA&r=GmX_32eCLYPFLJ529R ohsPjjNVwo9P0jVMsrMw7PFsA&m=83fq0qK5NI_zCHl0RK_KuZSUVpY-QOvdvjqiYIn9uo4&s=M2 W7zy0iWvUVS9z3WaNHePP3-UcY6GbzARPm7kFOEAQ&e= A On 25 January 2018 at 11:41, Ognjen Vukovic <ognj...@gmail.com> wrote: > Is it even possible to find those cards without huge markups from all > the miners buying them up? > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Leoung O'Young > <digim...@digimata.com> > wrote: > >> I am more thinking of the 4k monitor for as an animator's workstation. >> >> >> >> On 1/24/2018 2:31 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: >> >> There are ton of good monitors. Honestly it depends on your budget >> and needs. I would suggest to go with at least 32 inch for sure. >> One of my render machines is 3930k with 1070s GPUs, it will work fine >> don't worry. >> But to point out you don't really need 4k monitor to render out 4k >> frames. It makes it a bit easier to looking at them later of course. >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:27 PM, Leoung O'Young >> <digim...@digimata.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks so much on your insight. >>> What brand of 4K monitors do you recommend? >>> Would you know if a system with Intel i7 3930K 32 gb ram and a GTX >>> 1070 or 1080 will be ok for working with Soft 2015 in 4k? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/24/2018 2:10 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: >>> >>> I'm on 4k monitors (3 of them, never enough desktop space ;)) and >>> softimage does work fine. >>> Although it doesn't support windows scaling so you can't set scale >>> and layout to more then 100% which is a bit more comfortable on 4k screen. >>> Also here is screenshot of SI in 4K to give you idea. >>> >>> Not really editing footage in SI,any standard video editing work >>> with 4k these days, afterfx and similar. >>> AS for GPUs best way is to test and see if they can keep up with >>> your scenes. Could be still doable. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:57 PM, Leoung O'Young >>> <digim...@digimata.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mirko, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your reply. >>>> Did you to switched to a 4K monitor and does Soft 2015 work on a 4K >>>> screen? >>>> What hardwares do you need to edit the 4k footage in Soft and >>>> outside of Soft? >>>> We are still using GTX 970s, I assumed it is advisable to upgrade >>>> to GTX 1080 and 1080i? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Leoung >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/24/2018 12:41 PM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: >>>> >>>> Nothing really much to think about it. Just fire up to render and >>>> that is it. 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