And it is a technique that makes microwave circuits feasible for hams because a 
capacitor without wires is much more a capacitor then his predecessors ever 
were.

Blessed are the microwave lovers because they can do it wireless.

73, Henk, PA0KEP


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:26 PM
  Subject: RE: [softrock40] Re: Smt caps



  Most of the stuff has been small for years but the mounts (IC Carriers) were 
big and dictated by the industry.  Mostly because through hole components were 
the rage for many years.   Newer and better machines were developed, with 
precision placement and even vision that could place and tack the components 
and ever since it has been a shrinking world.  There are some really good gains 
in physics, performance and costs associated with making the parts smaller.  
Processing is easier and more reliable in the industry with these parts, if you 
have not seen the process you are missing something - this is absolutely 
amazing technology. Here is a link to a video for pick and place process;



  http://www.apsgold.com/l-series.html?gclid=CLHBxeuEn5MCFQciIgodzDvorw   



  So what we do here is the exception or usually reserved for rework or small 
run hobby stuff - these parts are designed for machine placement and very 
sophisticated soldering techniques.  When industry does this process it 
involves thousands of parts and solder joints and literally runs error free and 
almost never produces a bad solder joint.  In the modern process most of the 
visual work is done by a computer.  This combined with finer layouts and the 
micro components is what keeps the cost down and the functionality high per 
assembly.  



  73,  Ray,  N0FY

  SKCC 3704

  FH 997






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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ehydra
  Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 11:52 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: Smt caps



  Recently I got a NXP sample card with sizes down to 0.35mm pitch. I 
  wonder how it is possible to solder that stuff in a industrial 
  production line?

  (I don't work with such small stuff. 0603 is small enough)

  .. and don't understand what is so great making things so (unhandle) small??

  - Henry

  k5nwa schrieb:
  > At 10:33 AM 5/11/2008, you wrote:
  >> You are obviously bragging on your steady hands and eagle eyes!
  >>
  >> 73 de Robby WB5RVZ
  > 
  > I recently acquired some reels of 805 parts and I decided that is the 
  > limit on how low I will go on purpose. I'm getting old, I do need a 
  > serious set of head visors, pretty much most of the new good stuff is 
  > only available in micro-sized packages.
  > 
  > 
  > Cecil
  > K5NWA
  > www.softrockradio.org www.qrpradio.com
  > 
  > "Blessed are the cracked, for they shall let in the light."

  -- 
  www.ehydra.dyndns.info



   


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