Hi Ole,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ole Troan [mailto:ichiroumak...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Ole Troan
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:42 PM
> To: Templin, Fred L
> Cc: Lee, Yiu; softwires
> Subject: Re: [Softwires] SOFTWIRE working group last call on 6rd
> 
> >> I agree with Ole. MTU problem isn't unique to 6RD, it also happens to
> >> DS-lite or any other tunneling technique. We should move forward for 6RD 
> >> and
> >> perhaps start another draft for the MTU topic.
> >>
> >> Any thought?
> >
> > Yes - 1500+ is within our grasp, so why let it slip
> > through our fingers and settle for 1280?
> 
> so what are you proposing?
> 
> 1) that we leave current work on all tunnel-based solutions off the table, 
> while we work on a general
> solution for the MTU problem.
> 
> 2) develop a general MTU solution in parallel with current work.

As you may or may not know, SEAL has been in the works for
a long time now. This coming Aug/Sep will mark 8 years, and
coincided with the closure of NGTRANS (search for "pool-pah"):

  ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/ngtrans/2002-08.mail

the declaration of IPv6 as "operational":

  http://www.ops.ietf.org/lists/v6ops/v6ops.2002/msg00000.html

and the first meeting of the v6ops working group: 

  http://www.ops.ietf.org/lists/v6ops/v6ops.2002/msg00012.html

RFC5320 has an experimental implementation to match the
document's experimental category:

  http://osprey67.com/seal

and now, 'draft-templin-intarea-seal' is ready for general
consumption and development of interoperable implementations.
In fact, if anyone wants to beat me to forward-porting the
existing linux code to match the new spec, I would be glad
to challenge them to a bake-off in the near future.
Implementations for other OS's would of course also
be welcome.

As I said before, 6rd with a 1280 clamping might be pretty
good, but why not go the extra step to remove artificial
size restrictions and make it *great*.

Thanks - Fred
fred.l.temp...@boeing.com 

> cheers,
> Ole
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