On 2010-09-24 09:42, Yiu L. Lee wrote:
> I am ready to send the question to 6man. Before doing this, I got a question
> for GI-DS-lite. The spec assumes that there is a single pt-to-pt tunnel from
> the GW to AFTR. If we use Flow Label, the BRAS will have a pt-to-mp tunnel
> from BRAS to AFTR (each CPE will have a dedicated IP-in-IPv6 tunnel). Will
> this violate the spec?

Isn't the real question whether this will add an unreasonable amount
of state to the AFTR?

   Brian

> 
> 
> On 9/14/10 1:41 PM, "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Yiu,
>>
>>>> ...FB: Well, the concern is a more general one. I'm not disagreeing
>>> that we
>>>> might be able to have flow policies even with the new use of the
>> flow
>>> label.
>>>> The thing that I think requires more discussion is whether people
>> see
>>> a need
>>>> for using the IPv6 flow label in the core of their network, even if
>>> GI-DS-lite
>>>> with this new encapsulation would be used within the very same
>>> deployment. If
>>>> there is such a use, the new encap might create challenges... -
>> which
>>> we
>>>> should understand upfront. I don't know all the foreseen use-cases
>>> for the
>>>> flow label, hence my earlier question on whether the question has
>>> been taken
>>>> to a larger audience (especially 6man).
>>>>
>>> I don't disagree, but the ip address used by the CPE is only used by
>>> the CPE
>>> sourced traffic, this is why I think it is safe to be used. One can
>>> consider
>>> all the IPv4 traffic of a household is a flow (for encap). In this
>>> setup,
>>> this is rather true and should not affect other flow label for native
>>> v6
>>> traffic.
>>>
>>> I also want to hear more inputs. This is why I moved this discussion
>> to
>>> the
>>> mailing list. We will also post this question to 6man.
>>>
>> ... FB: Great, and thanks for widening the audience. BTW/ - one could
>> construct (theoretical) use cases, where the use of the flow label as
>> CID would at least change network behavior, e.g. imagine that a provider
>> would use ECMP and the hash would include the flow label (as initially
>> anticipated when the flow label was introduced). With the assumption of
>> SA and DA (Gateway and AFTR) being the same for all flows, the hash of
>> the flow label would determine ECMP behavior - desirable or not, it
>> would have an impact. So am curious to see whether there are real use
>> cases out there.
>>
>> Thanks, Frank
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