Dear Roberta,

> The DS-Lite ATFR Name option defined in RFC 6334 is used to carry a fully 
> qualified domain name of the AFTR not an IPv6 address.
> There was a proposal and a long discussion on the dhc working group about to 
> be able to use the same option to provision either  the name or the address 
> but the wg did not reach consensus on that idea.  So in my understanding you 
> cannot carry an IPv6 address into the DS-Lite AFTR Name option

[Qi] Sorry for not expressing it correctly. My intension was that the DS-Lite 
AFTR Name option could be used to tell the CE the BR's IPv6 info. The option 
should be used as it is designed. I didn't try to change that. 

> it would sound confusing in my opinion, using a DS-Lite specific option to 
> provision MAP specific parameters.

[Qi] In the Unified CPE draft, it using the  DS-Lite AFTR Name option to 
provision the IPv6 info of BR. The map dhcp draft is going to remove the DMR 
option. So I think these drafts should be aligned. 

Best Regards,
Qi Sun


On 2013-7-15, at 上午7:40, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) wrote:

> Hi Qu,
> A comment on point 2:
> >2. Currently, there is no DMR in MAP-E. The IPv6 address of the BR could be
> > provisioned by the DS-Lite AFTR Name option.
>  
> The DS-Lite ATFR Name option defined in RFC 6334 is used to carry a fully 
> qualified domain name of the AFTR not an IPv6 address.
> There was a proposal and a long discussion on the dhc working group about to 
> be able to use the same option to provision either  the name or the address 
> but the wg did not reach consensus on that idea.  So in my understanding you 
> cannot carry an IPv6 address into the DS-Lite AFTR Name option.
> In addition even if you could, it would sound confusing in my opinion, using 
> a DS-Lite specific option to provision MAP specific parameters.
>                           
> Thanks
> Regards
> Roberta
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Qi Sun
> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:39 PM
> To: Softwires
> Subject: Re: [Softwires] Comments on draft-ietf-softwire-map-deployment-01
>  
> Dear wg, 
>  
> I've reviewed the draft and have some comments in addition to Tom's.  May the 
> comments make the draft better. 
> Please correct me if there is any mistake.
>  
> Best Regards,
> Qi
>  
> 1. In Fig 1, there is an element called the Core Router. Does it mean MAP BR? 
> I think the terms should be consistent. 
> 2. Currently, there is no DMR in MAP-E. The IPv6 address of the BR could be 
> provisioned by the DS-Lite AFTR Name option. But the DMR is still in use in 
> MAP-T. IMO, this is an issue. But maybe the WG could give some guidance on 
> handling this. 
> 3. Section 4.2.2
> This part talks about sub-domain, which is a term that is not defined in the 
> MAP draft. I think there should be some text about the what a 'sub-domain' is 
> and how to differentiate 'sub-domain' from a MAP domain.
> 4. Section 4.2.5, para 3:
> It is the wg consensus that the non-contiguous port set has nothing to do 
> with 'better security'. I recommend text about this be removed.
> 5. Section 4.3, page 14:
>    'as long as it is up and ready to take over the virtual IPv6 address,
>    quick failover can be achieved.'
> Does the term 'virtual IPv6 address' stand for anycast IPv6 address, or 
> something else?
> 6. Section 4.3, page 14:
>   'Therefore, when using anycast addresses, it is RECOMMENDED that they
>   be only used as destination address, and never as source addresses.
>   BRs SHOULD be configured to accept traffic sent to the anycast
>    address, but use an unicast address as source.'
>  
> The packets from the BR to the CE is :
> Src: BR's unicast addr, Dest: CE's unicast addr
> But what should be the destination address of the packets from CE to BR after 
> the CE receives the responses sent from/via the BR? The BR's unicast addr, or 
> the anycast addr? IMO, there should be some text like 'The CE SHOULD always 
> use the anycast address of the BR if there is one when sending packets to the 
> BR.'  But there is another issue (maybe minor): how can the CE determine 
> which is the anycast address?
>  
>  
> Some Nits:
> 1. There are some acronyms in the draft, which are better to be expanded when 
> first used.
> 2. The para below Fig 2: 
>    For model A/B, one CE
>    only need (needs) to correspond to a BR, while in model C one CE have 
> (has) to
>    correspond with multiple BRs.  Figure 3 illustrate (illustrates) a typical 
> case,
>    where the home network have (has) multiple connections to multiple
>    providers or multiple logical connections to the same provider.
> 3. Section 4.2, 1st para:
>     However, all CEs within the sub-domain will have the same BMR. in which 
> the BMR of all CEs is the same.
>     => However, all CEs within the sub-domain will have the same BMR.
> 4. Section 4.2.3.2, 1st para:
>    Assigning all BMRs in MAP domain to each CE as FMRs, Mesh
>    communications can be achieved among all CEs.
>    =>   By assigning all BMRs in a MAP domain to each CE as the FMR, Mesh
>    communications can be achieved among all CEs.
> 5. Section 4.2.6, para 3:
>    For the ISP who have number
>    of scattered IPv4 address prefixes, in order to reduce the FMRs,
>    according to needs of ports they can divide different class.
>   => have -> has, reduce the FMRs -> reduce the number of FMRs, class -> 
> classes
> 6. Section 4.2.7, 3. PMTU and fragmentation, para 2
>      cannot to -> cannot do
> 7. Section 4.3, para 2
>   the path from the CE to an IPv4 peer via the BR should be close
>   to the one that would be taken if the CE had native IPv4 connectivity.
>   =>   the path from the CE to an IPv4 peer via the BR should be closer
>   than that would be taken if the CE had native IPv4 connectivity.
> 8. Section 6.2.2, para 1
> When a network evolve (evolves) to a post-IPv6 era. (,) It might
>    be good for ISP to consider implement enforcements rules to help IPv6
>    migration.
>    => When a network evolves to a post-IPv6 era, it might
>    be good for ISPs to consider to implement enforcement rules to help IPv6
>    migration.

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