Hi Woj,

Technically, that statement is accurate, for there is no IPv4 address and port 
set embedded in the IPv6 prefix in lw4over6, no matter what type of 
provisioning methods (dhcpv6/dhcpv4ov6/pcp) is used. 

Best Regards,
Qi


On 2014-3-12, at 下午5:25, Wojciech Dec wrote:

> Hi Qi,
> 
> thanks, but I'd rather stick with the text that we proposed and (lengthily) 
> discussed at the meeting, i.e.:
> 
> "Lightweight 4over6 provides a solution for a hub-and-spoke softwire 
> architecture only, where the lwAFTR maintains (softwire) state for each 
> subscriber. [I-D.ietf-softwire-map] offers
> a means for reducing the amount of such state by using algorithmic IPv4 to 
> IPv6 address mappings to create aggregate rules. This also gives the option 
> of direct meshed IPv4 connectivity between subscribers."
> 
> Note: Your text is different to the above,  and claims "complete 
> independence" which is not accurate in view of the fact that lw46 DOES embed 
> the IPv4 address in the IPv6 address. In terms of embedding stuff in the 
> "prefix part" (i.e. the top /64), both solutions allow "complete prefix 
> independence", so that's a null point.
> 
> Regards,
> Wojciech.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12 March 2014 08:51, Qi Sun <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> According to the discussion last Friday, there should be some text describing 
> the characteristics of lw4o6 and map-e with cross-referece, and the text 
> should be the same (or almost the same). 
> 
> The two points that are requested to be in the text: 
> * MAP-E achieves aggregated rules
> * MAP-E does mesh
> 
> Here is the proposal:
> 
> In lw4o6 draft, section of Introduction:
> Lightweight 4over6 provides a solution with complete independence of IPv4
> and IPv6 addressing (i.e., the IPv6 prefix does not embed an IPv4 address
> and/or port set). This is accomplished by maintaining state for each
> softwire (per-subscriber state) in the lwAFTR and using a hub-and-spoke
> architecture whereby all traffic traverse the lwAFTR. [I-D.ietf-softwire-
> map] offers a means for reducing the amount of such state by using
> algorithmic IPv4 to IPv6 address mappings to create aggregate rules. This
> also gives the option of direct, meshed IPv4 connectivity between
> subscribers.
> 
> In MAP-E draft, section of Introduction:
> MAP-E offers a means for reducing the amount state held in the BR by
> using algorithmic IPv4 to IPv6 address mappings to create aggregate rules.
> This also gives the option of direct, meshed IPv4 connectivity between
> subscribers. Lightweight 4over6 [I-D.ietf-softwire-lw4over6] provides a
> solution with complete independence of IPv4 and IPv6 addressing 
> (i.e., the IPv6 prefix does not embed an IPv4 address and/or port set). This 
> is
> accomplished by maintaining state for each softwire (per-subscriber state)
> in the lwAFTR and using a hub-and-spoke architecture whereby all traffic
> traverse the lwAFTR. 
> 
> The above text has been agreed by the lw4over6 co-authors. 
> @Woj, could you please see if the the proposal resolves your concern? Thanks!
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Qi
> 
> 
> 

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