I'm not suggesting you don't validate it first with your own tests. I
can't imagine you take a release and just deploy it in production,
right?
I'm just observing that if everyone (besides the committers) takes
this "release only" approach, then you quickly realize that the large
majority of testing in real production systems happens _after_
release, not before, which makes it seem less like a "release" and
more like a "release to QA". We committers and contributors make best
efforts to test, but the community is responsible for finding most
issues simply (b/c of sheer volume) regardless of what name you want
to apply to the actual bits they are testing (i.e. nightly/release/
Giant Ball of Solr Fun). In other words, if you are planning on
upgrading to 1.4, then you should be trying out 1.4-dev in your test
environment before release, not after.
Just my two cents,
Grant
On May 14, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Eger, Patrick wrote:
Yeah, at least for us, the corporate overlords (and our operations
team) would be *extremely* hesitant to go to production with any
kind of snapshot release. If there was a "weekly stable" or similar
that might be slightly better, but definitely not a CI/nightly.
Best Regards,
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Noble Paul ??????? ??????
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Solr 1.4
The advantage is that there is strength in numbers. There will be a
lot of users using the release build and if there is an issue the
user
can rest assured that there will others who need the same fix on the
same revision. (so a better chance of a resolution)
moreover there won't be any half baked fixes in a release
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Grant Ingersoll
<[email protected]>
wrote:
On May 13, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Eger, Patrick wrote:
+2
This would be very much appreciated by your users, I at least was
expecting March :-) We were hoping to release with 1.4
(specifically
for
java replication and field collapsing) but had to redo some plans
since
it seemed to keep slipping.
It's not like anything all that magical necessarily happens with a
release.
Sure, we package up the bits and there is some legal
ramifications, I
suppose, but the software is more or less the same. In other words,
most
people should be fine with trunk, or some recent revision. In fact
if
more
people tried out trunk, it would be faster to release b/c we would
have
more
vetting done.
Not complaining, just FYI on our experiences
(it's a free product after all). A 4-6 month release schedule
would be
ideal for us, whereas it looks like it'll be ~9-10 months
currently?
Again, not complaining, just trying to get SOLR into production!
http://wiki.apache.org/solr/HowToContribute ;-)
