All, I read somewhere that you should run your own ZK externally, and turn off SolrCloud. Comments please! Rick
On April 25, 2017 1:33:31 PM EDT, "Otis Gospodnetić" <otis.gospodne...@gmail.com> wrote: >This is interesting - that ZK is seen as adding so much complexity that >it >turns people off! > >If you think about it, Elasticsearch users have no choice -- except >their >"ZK" is built-in, hidden, so one doesn't have to think about it, at >least >not initially. > >I think I saw mentions (maybe on user or dev MLs or JIRA) about >potentially, in the future, there only being SolrCloud mode (and >dropping >SolrCloud name in favour of Solr). If the above comment from Charlie >about >complexity is really true for Solr users, and if that's the reason why >we >see so few people running SolrCloud today, perhaps that's a good signal >for >Solr development/priorities in terms of ZK >hiding/automating/embedding/something... > >Otis >-- >Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection >Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training - http://sematext.com/ > > >On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 4:50 AM, Charlie Hull <char...@flax.co.uk> >wrote: > >> On 24/04/2017 15:58, Otis Gospodnetić wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm really really surprised here. Back in 2013 we did a poll to see >how >>> people were running Master-Slave (4.x back then) and SolrCloud was a >bit >>> more popular than Master-Slave: >>> https://sematext.com/blog/2013/02/25/poll-solr-cloud-or-not/ >>> >>> Here is a fresh new poll with pretty much the same question - How do >you >>> run your Solr? ><https://twitter.com/sematext/status/854927627748036608> - >>> and guess what? SolrCloud is *not* at all a lot more prevalent than >>> Master-Slave. >>> >>> We definitely see a lot more SolrCloud used by Sematext Solr >>> consulting/support customers, so I'm a bit surprised by the results >of >>> this >>> poll so far. >>> >> >> I'm not particularly surprised. We regularly see clients either with >> single nodes or elderly versions of Solr (or even Lucene). Zookeeper >is >> still seen as a bit of a black art. Once you move from 'how do I run >a >> search engine' to 'how do I manage a cluster of servers with scaling >for >> performance/resilience/failover' you're looking at a completely new >set >> of skills and challenges, which I think puts many people off. >> >> Charlie >> >>> >>> Is anyone else surprised by this? See https://twitter.com/sematext/ >>> status/854927627748036608 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Otis >>> -- >>> Monitoring - Log Management - Alerting - Anomaly Detection >>> Solr & Elasticsearch Consulting Support Training - >http://sematext.com/ >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> http://www.avg.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Charlie Hull >> Flax - Open Source Enterprise Search >> >> tel/fax: +44 (0)8700 118334 >> mobile: +44 (0)7767 825828 >> web: www.flax.co.uk >> -- Sorry for being brief. Alternate email is rickleir at yahoo dot com
