Hi Erick,
Hi Walter,

Thanks for these information,

I will learn seriously about the solr article you gave me.
I thought it was important to always delete and optimize collection.

More information concerning my collection,
Index size is about 390Go for 130M docs (3-5ko / doc), around 25 fields 
(indexed, stored)
All Tuesday I do an update of around 1M docs and all Thusday I do an add new 
docs (around 50 000).

Many thanks !

Regards,
Bruno

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Erick Erickson [mailto:erickerick...@gmail.com]
Envoyé : mercredi 2 décembre 2020 14:07
À : solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Objet : Re: Solr8.7 - How to optmize my index ?

expungeDeletes is unnecessary, optimize is a superset of expungeDeletes.
The key difference is commit=true. I suspect if you’d waited until your 
indexing process added another doc and committed, you’d have seen the index 
size drop.

Just to check, you send the command to my_core but talk about collections.
Specifying the collection is sufficient, but I’ll assume that’s a typo and 
you’re really saying my_collection.

I agree with Walter like I always do, you shouldn’t be running optimize without 
some proof that it’s helping. About the only time I think it’s reasonable is 
when you have a static index, unless you can demonstrate improved performance. 
The optimize button was removed precisely because it was so tempting. In much 
earlier versions of Lucene, it made a demonstrable difference so was put front 
and center. In more recent versions of Solr optimize doesn’t help nearly as 
much so it was removed.

You say you have 38M deleted documents. How many documents total? If this is 
50% of your index, that’s one thing. If it’s 5%, it’s certainly not worth the 
effort. You’re rewriting 466G of index, if you’re not seeing demonstrable 
performance improvements, that’s a lot of wasted effort…

See: https://lucidworks.com/post/solr-and-optimizing-your-index-take-ii/
and the linked article for what happens in pre 7.5 solr versions.

Best,
Erick

> On Dec 1, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Info MatheoSoftware <i...@matheosoftware.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I found the solution, I must do :
>
> curl ‘http://xxxxxxx:8983/solr/my_core/update?
> <http://xxxxxxx:8983/solr/my_core/update?optimize=true>
> commit=true&expungeDeletes=true’
>
>
>
> It works fine
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> De : Matheo Software [mailto:i...@matheo-software.com] Envoyé : mardi
> 1 décembre 2020 13:28 À : solr-user@lucene.apache.org Objet : Solr8.7
> - How to optmize my index ?
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> With Solr5.4, I used the UI button but in Solr8.7 UI this button is missing.
>
>
>
> So I decide to use the command line:
>
> curl http://xxxxxxx:8983/solr/my_core/update?optimize=true
>
>
>
> My collection my_core exists of course.
>
>
>
> The answer of the command line is:
>
> {
>
>  "responseHeader":{
>
>    "status":0,
>
>    "QTime":18}
>
> }
>
>
>
> But nothing change.
>
> I always have 38M deleted docs in my collection and directory size no
> change like with solr5.4.
>
> The size of the collection stay always at : 466.33Go
>
>
>
> Could you tell me how can I purge deleted docs ?
>
>
>
> Cordialement, Best Regards
>
> Bruno Mannina
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