Hi Peter

I understand what you are saying but I think you are thinking more of report
as graph and analysis and summary kind of data .. for my reports I do need
to include all records that qualify certain criteria .. e.g. a listing of
all orders placed in last 6 months .. now that could be 10000 orders and yes
I will need probably a report that summarizes all that data but at the same
time .. I need all those 10000 records to be exported in an excel file ..
those are the reports that I am talking about ..

and 30000 probably is a stretch .. it might be 10-15000 at the most but I
guess its still the same idea .. and yes I realize that its alot of data to
be transferred over http .. but thats exactly why i am asking for suggestion
on how to do .. I find it hard to believe that this is an unusual
requirement .. I think most companies do reports that dump all records from
databases in excel files ..

so again to clarify I definitely need reports that present statistics and
averages and yes I will be using facets and all kind of stuff there and I am
not so concerned about those reports because like you pointed out, for those
reports there will be very little data transfer but its the full data dump
reports that I am trying to figure out the best way to handle.

Thanks for your help
Adeel



On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Peter Sturge <peter.stu...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Are you going to generate a report with 30000 records in it? That will
> be a very large report - will anyone really want to read through that?
> If you want/need 'summary' reports - i.e. stats on on the 30k records,
> it is much more efficient to setup faceting and/or server-side
> analysis to do this, rather than download
> 30000 records to a client, then do statistical analysis on the result.
> It will take a while to stream 30000 records over an http connection,
> and, if you're building, say, a PDF table for 30k records, that will
> take some time as well.
> Server-side analysis then just send the results will work better, if
> that fits your remit for reporting.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Adeel Qureshi <adeelmahm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thank you for your suggestions .. makes sense and I didnt knew about the
> > XsltResponseWriter .. that opens up door to all kind of possibilities
> ..so
> > its great to know about that
> >
> > but before I go that route .. what about performance .. In Solr Wiki it
> > mentions that XSLT transformation isnt so bad in terms of memory usage
> but I
> > guess its all relative to the amount of data and obviously system
> resources
> > ..
> >
> > my data set will be around 15000 - 30'000 records at the most ..I do have
> > about 30 some fields but all fields are either small strings (less than
> 500
> > chars) or dates, int, booleans etc .. so should I be worried about
> > performances problems while doing the XSLT translations .. secondly for
> > reports Ill have to request solr to send all 15000 some records at the
> same
> > time to be entered in report output files .. is there a way to kind of
> > stream that process .. well I think Solr native xml is already streamed
> to
> > you but sounds like for the translation it will have to load the whole
> thing
> > in RAM ..
> >
> > and again what about SolrJ .. isnt that supposed to provide better
> > performance since its in java .. well I guess it shouldnt be much
> different
> > since it also uses the HTTP calls to communicate to Solr ..
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> > Adeel
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:16 AM, kenf_nc <ken.fos...@realestate.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> keep in mind that the <str name="id"> paradigm isn't completely useless,
> >> the
> >> str is a data type (string), it can be int, float, double, date, and
> >> others.
> >> So to not lose any information you may want to do something like:
> >>
> >> <id type="int">123</id>
> >> <title type="str">xyz</title>
> >>
> >> Which I agree makes more sense to me. The name of the field is more
> >> important than it's datatype, but I don't want to lose track of the data
> >> type.
> >>
> >> Ken
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >>
> http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Solr-Reporting-tp1565271p1567604.html
> >> Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >
>

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