Shouldn't all deep pagination against a cluster use the new cursor mark
feature instead of 'start' and 'rows'?

4 or 5 requests still seems a very low limit to be running into an OOM
issues though, so perhaps it is both issues combined?

Ta,
Greg



On 18 March 2014 07:49, Mike Hugo <m...@piragua.com> wrote:

> Thanks!
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Steve Rowe <sar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > Days.  I plan on making a 4.7.1 release candidate a week from today, and
> > assuming nobody finds any problems with the RC, it will be released
> roughly
> > four days thereafter (three days for voting + one day for release
> > propogation to the Apache mirrors): i.e., next Friday-ish.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Mike Hugo <m...@piragua.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Steve,
> > >
> > > That certainly looks like it could be the culprit.  Any word on a
> release
> > > date for 4.7.1?  Days?  Weeks?  Months?
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Steve Rowe <sar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Mike,
> > >>
> > >> The OOM you're seeing is likely a result of the bug described in (and
> > >> fixed by a commit under) SOLR-5875: <
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-5875>.
> > >>
> > >> If you can build from source, it would be great if you could confirm
> the
> > >> fix addresses the issue you're facing.
> > >>
> > >> This fix will be part of a to-be-released Solr 4.7.1.
> > >>
> > >> Steve
> > >>
> > >> On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Mike Hugo <m...@piragua.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello,
> > >>>
> > >>> We recently upgraded to Solr Cloud 4.7 (went from a single node Solr
> > 4.0
> > >>> instance to 3 node Solr 4.7 cluster).
> > >>>
> > >>> Part of out application does an automated traversal of all documents
> > that
> > >>> match a specific query.  It does this by iterating through results by
> > >>> setting the start and rows parameters, starting with start=0 and
> > >> rows=1000,
> > >>> then start=1000, rows=1000, start = 2000, rows=1000, etc etc.
> > >>>
> > >>> We do this in parallel fashion with multiple workers on multiple
> nodes.
> > >>> It's easy to chunk up the work to be done by figuring out how many
> > total
> > >>> results there are and then creating 'chunks' (0-1000, 1000-2000,
> > >> 2000-3000)
> > >>> and sending each chunk to a worker in a pool of multi-threaded
> workers.
> > >>>
> > >>> This worked well for us with a single server.  However upon upgrading
> > to
> > >>> solr cloud, we've found that this quickly (within the first 4 or 5
> > >>> requests) causes an OutOfMemory error on the coordinating node that
> > >>> receives the query.   I don't fully understand what's going on here,
> > but
> > >> it
> > >>> looks like the coordinating node receives the query and sends it to
> the
> > >>> shard requested.  For example, given:
> > >>>
> > >>> shards=shard3&sort=id+asc&start=4000&q=*:*&rows=1000
> > >>>
> > >>> The coordinating node sends this query to shard3:
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW=1395086719189&shard.url=
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> http://shard3_url_goes_here:8080/solr/collection1/&fl=id&sort=id+asc&start=0&q=*:*&distrib=false&wt=javabin&isShard=true&fsv=true&version=2&rows=5000
> > >>>
> > >>> Notice the rows parameter is 5000 (start + rows).  If the coordinator
> > >> node
> > >>> is able to process the result set (which works for the first few
> pages,
> > >>> after that it will quickly run out of memory), it eventually issues
> > this
> > >>> request back to shard3:
> > >>>
> > >>> NOW=1395086719189&shard.url=
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> http://10.128.215.226:8080/extera-search/gemindex/&start=4000&ids=a..bunch...(1000)..of..doc..ids..go..here&q=*:*&distrib=false&wt=javabin&isShard=true&version=2&rows=1000
> > >>>
> > >>> and then finally returns the response to the client.
> > >>>
> > >>> One possible workaround:  We've found that if we issue
> non-distributed
> > >>> requests to specific shards, that we get performance along the same
> > lines
> > >>> that we did before.  E.g. issue a query with
> > shards=shard3&distrib=false
> > >>> directly to the url of the shard3 instance, rather than going through
> > the
> > >>> cloud solr server solrj API.
> > >>>
> > >>> The other workaround is to adapt to use the new new cursorMark
> > >>> functionality.  I've manually tried a few requests and it is pretty
> > >>> efficient, and doesn't result in the OOM errors on the coordinating
> > node.
> > >>> However, i've only done this in single threaded manner.  I'm
> wondering
> > if
> > >>> there would be a way to get cursor marks for an entire result set at
> a
> > >>> given page interval, so that they could then be fed to the pool of
> > >> parallel
> > >>> workers to get the results in parallel rather than single threaded.
>  Is
> > >>> there a way to do this so we could process the results in parallel?
> > >>>
> > >>> Any other possible solutions?  Thanks in advance.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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