thanks Bill,
I'd tried unsetting $TMPDIR and it worked, but was a bit of a pain.
I can confirm that your suggested change to xh.c fixed my problem.
Thanks again!
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:04 AM, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
> inside xh.c, look for the lines
>
> > const char*ftmp=getenv("TMPDIR"); /* android always define TMPDIR in
> jeload */
> > strcpy(fn,ftmp?ftmp:(char*)"/tmp");
>
> $TMPDIR was only intended for android, since it has no /tmp
> directory. On the other hand, $TMPDIR is not a posix standard,
> /tmp is always present in linux. You may try, either unset
> $TMPDIR before running jconsole or change the line into
>
> > strcpy(fn,(char*)"/tmp");
>
> Чт, 08 июн 2017, Ric Tikkanz написал(а):
> > The mystery appears to have been solved. It seems jengine segfaults when
> > $TMPDIR is longer than 27 characters. Inside a Slurm job it is getting
> set
> > to something like "/tmp/jobs/$USERNAME/63964409" (so that the Slurm
> > "epilog" can remove any leftover temporary files at the end of the job),
> > and my user name is longer than the support guy's user name.
> >
> > Does the 27 character limit make sense? Is there any reason not to
> increase
> > this?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Ric Sherlock <tikk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I meant that I got the same result when I ran the commands above. I
> didn't
> > > check the file itself.
> > >
> > > When I do:
> > > gdb ./jconsole core.xxxx
> > > > run
> > > then J seems to work OK.
> > >
> > > I've attached the libj.so
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:43 PM, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> What is no difference? Can you email me your libj.so to try?
> > >>
> > >> Ср, 07 июн 2017, Ric Tikkanz написал(а):
> > >> > Tried again with -ggdb with no difference
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Ric Sherlock <tikk...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Can try again with that. I used it the first time in build_libj
> but
> > >> gdb
> > >> > > was reporting no symbols, googling around for using gdb I found a
> > >> bunch of
> > >> > > pages suggesting -g. Used that with no change, until I realised I
> > >> needed to
> > >> > > change build_jconsole.sh too.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:17 PM, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Not sure what had gone wrong. I usually build debug version
> > >> > >> with -ggdb since this work better with gdb.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> What was the problem with -ggdb ?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Ср, 07 июн 2017, Ric Tikkanz написал(а):
> > >> > >> > Thanks Bill,
> > >> > >> > I made the change you suggested (but used -g rather than
> -ggdb) as
> > >> well
> > >> > >> as
> > >> > >> > a similar change in build_jconsole.sh and then ran through the
> make
> > >> > >> process
> > >> > >> > including install.sh and clean.sh
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I started a SLURM environment, set $ ulimit -c unlimited
> > >> > >> > I then ran $ gdb ./jconsole
> > >> > >> > which generated a core dump file.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I then exited the SLURM environment and ran gdb on the core
> dump,
> > >> with
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> > result below.
> > >> > >> > Looks less than illuminating? Am I missing something?
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > $ gdb ./jconsole core.10302
> > >> > >> > GNU gdb (GDB) 7.12
> > >> > >> > Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > >> > >> > License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <
> > >> > >> http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute
> it.
> > >> > >> > There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type
> "show
> > >> > >> copying"
> > >> > >> > and "show warranty" for details.
> > >> > >> > This GDB was configured as "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu".
> > >> > >> > Type "show configuration" for configuration details.
> > >> > >> > For bug reporting instructions, please see:
> > >> > >> > <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>.
> > >> > >> > Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online
> at:
> > >> > >> > <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>.
> > >> > >> > For help, type "help".
> > >> > >> > Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"...
> > >> > >> > Reading symbols from ./jconsole...done.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > warning: core file may not match specified executable file.
> > >> > >> > [New LWP 10302]
> > >> > >> > Core was generated by `gdb ./jconsole'.
> > >> > >> > Program terminated with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> > >> > >> > #0 0x00000000006e2e9b in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > (gdb) bt
> > >> > >> > #0 0x00000000006e2e9b in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #1 0x0000000000000001 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #2 0x00002b0af52248c8 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #3 0x54552e53555f6e65 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #4 0x0000000000000040 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #5 0x0000000000e69520 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #6 0x00007fff8820d0e0 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #7 0x00007fff8820d1e0 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> > #8 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 6:01 PM, bill lam <bbill....@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > Assuming you are using gcc,
> > >> > >> > > change a line in build_libj.sh
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > common="$OPENMP -fPIC -O1 -fwrapv ...
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > to
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > common="$OPENMP -fPIC -ggdb -O0 -fwrapv ...
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > and invoke ./jconsole as gdb ./jconsole
> > >> > >> > > run and wait for segfault.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > I got no idea what had happened.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > Ср, 07 июн 2017, Ric Tikkanz написал(а):
> > >> > >> > > > Ok so while I can successfully run jconsole and scripts on
> a
> > >> build
> > >> > >> node
> > >> > >> > > on
> > >> > >> > > > the cluster (all tests pass), whenever I try to run J via
> SLURM
> > >> > >> workload
> > >> > >> > > > manager <https://slurm.schedmd.com/> using srun or sbatch
> I
> > >> get a
> > >> > >> > > Segfault
> > >> > >> > > > and a core dump.
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > I'm working with a Cluster support guy who is able to run
> > >> fine, but
> > >> > >> can
> > >> > >> > > > confirm that if he logs in as me he gets the same error.
> I've
> > >> > >> copied his
> > >> > >> > > > last message below in case it is helpful to those of you
> who
> > >> know
> > >> > >> more
> > >> > >> > > > about the internals of the system.
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > My questions are:
> > >> > >> > > > 1. Is compiling J with debugger support relatively easy
> and
> > >> if so
> > >> > >> are
> > >> > >> > > > there any instructions?
> > >> > >> > > > 2. Does the stack listing below suggest any potential
> > >> problems
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > Note I'm compiling the up-to-date master branch ( 05073eb
> > >> > >> 2017-06-05 ) of
> > >> > >> > > > the github repository.
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > ====== message from support guy ======
> > >> > >> > > > OK now I can reproduce it when running as you, but I still
> > >> don't
> > >> > >> know
> > >> > >> > > what
> > >> > >> > > > the difference is. It might help to compile it with
> debugging
> > >> > >> support -
> > >> > >> > > > currently I can get a listing of the stack at the point it
> dies
> > >> > >> (below)
> > >> > >> > > but
> > >> > >> > > > not any line numbers or values of variables. From the
> source
> > >> code it
> > >> > >> > > seems
> > >> > >> > > > the deepest part of this (*jtgaf*) is part of jengine's
> memory
> > >> > >> management
> > >> > >> > > > code, which I guess isn't a surprise given that the
> symprom is
> > >> a
> > >> > >> > > segfault.
> > >> > >> > > > As you can see, the function names are not very
> > >> self-explanatory.
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > #0 0x00002b2de75608d6 in jtgaf () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #1 0x00002b2de7560ad1 in jtgafv () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #2 0x00002b2de7560bdd in jtga () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #3 0x00002b2de7655be0 in jtindexofsub () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #4 0x00002b2de7659522 in jtless () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #5 0x00002b2de751b2d9 in jtdfs2 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #6 0x00002b2de75647a7 in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #7 0x00002b2de754cf69 in jtparseas () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #8 0x00002b2de754d592 in jtparsex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #9 0x00002b2de7548152 in jtxdefn () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #10 0x00002b2de754923b in xn1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #11 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #12 0x00002b2de756466d in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #13 0x00002b2de75650e1 in jtparse () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #14 0x00002b2de75674dd in jtimmex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #15 0x00002b2de771f96e in jtline () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #16 0x00002b2de771fe52 in jtlinf () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #17 0x00002b2de77204db in jtscm00 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #18 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #19 0x00002b2de756466d in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #20 0x00002b2de754cf69 in jtparseas () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #21 0x00002b2de754d592 in jtparsex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #22 0x00002b2de7548152 in jtxdefn () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #23 0x00002b2de754923b in xn1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #24 0x00002b2de751e8e9 in on1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #25 0x00002b2de751e8e9 in on1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #26 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #27 0x00002b2de756fef8 in jtunquote () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #28 0x00002b2de757005b in jtunquote1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #29 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #30 0x00002b2de756465e in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #31 0x00002b2de754cf69 in jtparseas () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #32 0x00002b2de754d592 in jtparsex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #33 0x00002b2de7548152 in jtxdefn () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #34 0x00002b2de754923b in xn1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #35 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #36 0x00002b2de756466d in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #37 0x00002b2de75650e1 in jtparse () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #38 0x00002b2de75674dd in jtimmex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #39 0x00002b2de771f96e in jtline () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #40 0x00002b2de771fe52 in jtlinf () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #41 0x00002b2de77204db in jtscm00 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #42 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #43 0x00002b2de756466d in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #44 0x00002b2de75650e1 in jtparse () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #45 0x00002b2de75674dd in jtimmex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #46 0x00002b2de771f96e in jtline () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #47 0x00002b2de771fe52 in jtlinf () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #48 0x00002b2de77204db in jtscm00 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #49 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #50 0x00002b2de756466d in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #51 0x00002b2de754cf69 in jtparseas () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #52 0x00002b2de754d592 in jtparsex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #53 0x00002b2de7548152 in jtxdefn () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #54 0x00002b2de754923b in xn1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #55 0x00002b2de751b286 in jtdfs1 () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #56 0x00002b2de756466d in jtparsea () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #57 0x00002b2de75650e1 in jtparse () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #58 0x00002b2de75674dd in jtimmex () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #59 0x00002b2de755b6f2 in jdo () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #60 0x00002b2de755b840 in JDo () from
> > >> > >> > > > /gpfs1m/projects/nesi00187/tools/j64_806/bin/libj.so
> > >> > >> > > > #61 0x00000000004013c0 in jedo ()
> > >> > >> > > > #62 0x0000000000401770 in jefirst ()
> > >> > >> > > > #63 0x0000000000401307 in main ()
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 3:00 AM, Ric Sherlock <
> > >> tikk...@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > Yes it will be more resilient to upgrades too I imagine!
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 2:45 AM, bill lam <
> > >> bbill....@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> I think link to the major version is sufficient,
> > >> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > >> > > > >> +LINK=" -l:libedit.so.0 -ldl -o jconsole "
> > >> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > >> > > > >> Вс, 04 июн 2017, Ric Tikkanz написал(а):
> > >> > >> > > > >> > Thanks Bill,
> > >> > >> > > > >> > I ended up just editing the make/build_jconsole.sh as
> > >> follows.
> > >> > >> This
> > >> > >> > > > >> seems
> > >> > >> > > > >> > to have done the trick for now so I can make some
> > >> progress!
> > >> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > ...
> > >> > >> > > > >> > linux_j64)
> > >> > >> > > > >> > COMPILE="$common -DREADLINE"
> > >> > >> > > > >> > -LINK=" -ledit -ldl -o jconsole "
> > >> > >> > > > >> > +LINK=" -l:libedit.so.0.0.27 -ldl -o jconsole "
> > >> > >> > > > >> > ;;
> > >> > >> > > > >> > ...
> > >> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 12:13 AM, bill lam <
> > >> bbill....@gmail.com
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > An easy way is not define READLINE in build but
> then you
> > >> > >> will miss
> > >> > >> > > > >> readline
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > facility.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > or symlink the file under your home folder and use
> > >> > >> LB_LIBRARY_PATH
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > environment variable.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > On 3 Jun, 2017 8:04 pm, "Ric Sherlock" <
> > >> tikk...@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > That is why I was thinking I should build the
> system
> > >> on
> > >> > >> the rhel
> > >> > >> > > > >> system?
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > i.e. to make sure it has the versions that I'm
> > >> linking to?
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > I've had a go at this and am having an issue
> finding
> > >> > >> libedit.so
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > $ $jmake/build_jconsole.sh j64
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > -fPIC -O1 -Wextra -Wno-unused-parameter -DREADLINE
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > -ledit -ldl -o jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > cc jconsole.o jeload.o -ledit -ldl -o jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ledit
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > make: *** [jconsole] Error 1
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > cp: cannot stat `jconsole': No such file or
> directory
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > I've found a copy on the system at
> > >> /usr/lib64/libedit.so.0
> > >> > >> or
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > /usr/lib64/libedit.so.0.0.27 . If I had sudo
> access
> > >> I'd
> > >> > >> create
> > >> > >> > > > >> symlink to
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > /usr/lib64/libedit.so but I don't. What other
> options
> > >> do I
> > >> > >> have?
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 11:45 PM, bill lam <
> > >> > >> bbill....@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > Since you built on ubuntu 16.04, I suspect its
> > >> glibc is
> > >> > >> still
> > >> > >> > > > >> newer
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > than
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > that on rhel.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > On 3 Jun, 2017 7:29 pm, "Ric Sherlock" <
> > >> > >> tikk...@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Hi Bill,
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Thanks based on that suggestion I checked out
> > >> master
> > >> > >> which
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > successfully
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > built. Tests running now.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > So am I right in thinking that my next move
> is to
> > >> > >> build the
> > >> > >> > > > >> system on
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > the
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Red Hat server?
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 11:19 PM, bill lam <
> > >> > >> > > bbill....@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > copy the file build_jconsole.sh from j806
> head,
> > >> > >> there the
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > dependency on ncursesw has been killed off.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > Сб, 03 июн 2017, Ric Tikkanz написал(а):
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Hi guys,
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm trying to build J from source - the
> main
> > >> > >> incentive
> > >> > >> > > > >> being to
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > try
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > and
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > get
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > it running on a research compute cluster.
> (see
> > >> > >> post in
> > >> > >> > > beta
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > forum)
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I thought I'd start simple by cloning the
> > >> source
> > >> > >> from
> > >> > >> > > > >> github and
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > building
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > the j64-805 release branch on my local
> Ubuntu
> > >> 16.04
> > >> > >> > > > >> machine, but
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > came
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > across a problem.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ~$ $jmake/build_jconsole.sh j64
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > -fPIC -O1 -Wextra -DREADLINE
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> unix/libedit64.a
> > >> -ldl
> > >> > >> > > > >> -lncursesw -o
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cc -fPIC -O1 -Wextra -DREADLINE -c -o
> > >> > >> jconsole.o
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> jsrc/jconsole.c
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cc -fPIC -O1 -Wextra -DREADLINE -c -o
> > >> jeload.o
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/jsrc/jeload.c
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/jsrc/jeload.c:
> In
> > >> > >> function
> > >> > >> > > > >> ‘jepath’:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/js
> > >> rc/jeload.c:139:3:
> > >> > >> > > warning:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > ignoring
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > return
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > value of ‘getcwd’, declared with attribute
> > >> > >> > > > >> warn_unused_result
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > [-Wunused-result]
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > getcwd(path,sizeof(path));
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ^
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cc jconsole.o jeload.o
> > >> > >> /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > unix/libedit64.a
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > -ldl
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > -lncursesw -o jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncursesw
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> make/makefile:5:
> > >> > >> recipe for
> > >> > >> > > > >> target
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > 'jconsole'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > make: *** [jconsole] Error 1
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cp: cannot stat 'jconsole': No such file
> or
> > >> > >> directory
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > From the above it appears that ncursesw
> is not
> > >> > >> found.
> > >> > >> > > This
> > >> > >> > > > >> seems
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > to
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > be
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > confirmed by:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ~$ ld -lncursesw --verbose
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ...
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ==============================
> > >> ====================
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-g
> > >> > >> > > > >> nu/libncursesw.so
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-g
> > >> > >> > > > >> nu/libncursesw.a
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncur
> > >> > >> sesw.so
> > >> > >> > > > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncur
> > >> > >> sesw.a
> > >> > >> > > failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
> > >> > >> > > libncursesw.so
> > >> > >> > > > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/
> > >> > >> > > libncursesw.a
> > >> > >> > > > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/local/lib64/libncursesw.
> > >> so
> > >> > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/local/lib64/libncursesw.
> > >> a
> > >> > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //lib64/libncursesw.so
> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //lib64/libncursesw.a
> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //usr/lib64/libncursesw.so
> > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //usr/lib64/libncursesw.a
> > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/local/lib/libncursesw.so
> > >> > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/local/lib/libncursesw.a
> > >> > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //lib/libncursesw.so
> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //lib/libncursesw.a failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //usr/lib/libncursesw.so
> > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open //usr/lib/libncursesw.a
> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/
> > >> > >> > > libncursesw.so
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib64/
> > >> > >> > > libncursesw.a
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/
> > >> > >> > > libncursesw.so
> > >> > >> > > > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > attempt to open
> //usr/x86_64-linux-gnu/lib/
> > >> > >> > > libncursesw.a
> > >> > >> > > > >> failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ~$ ls /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncursesw*
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncursesw.so.5
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncursesw.so.5.9
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > It seems that there is no link to
> > >> libncursesw.so
> > >> > >> on my
> > >> > >> > > > >> system. I
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > then
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > tried
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > creating a symlink from libncursesw.so to
> > >> > >> > > > >> libncursesw.so.5.9 in
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ but this didn't
> fully
> > >> > >> resolve
> > >> > >> > > things
> > >> > >> > > > >> as
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > shown
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > below.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > I'm not sure what the output below is
> telling
> > >> me
> > >> > >> and
> > >> > >> > > what
> > >> > >> > > > >> my next
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > move
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > is.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ~$ $jmake/build_jconsole.sh j64
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > -fPIC -O1 -Wextra -DREADLINE
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> unix/libedit64.a
> > >> -ldl
> > >> > >> > > > >> -lncursesw -o
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cc -fPIC -O1 -Wextra -DREADLINE -c -o
> > >> > >> jconsole.o
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> jsrc/jconsole.c
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cc -fPIC -O1 -Wextra -DREADLINE -c -o
> > >> jeload.o
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/jsrc/jeload.c
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/jsrc/jeload.c:
> In
> > >> > >> function
> > >> > >> > > > >> ‘jepath’:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/js
> > >> rc/jeload.c:139:3:
> > >> > >> > > warning:
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > ignoring
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > return
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > value of ‘getcwd’, declared with attribute
> > >> > >> > > > >> warn_unused_result
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > [-Wunused-result]
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > getcwd(path,sizeof(path));
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ^
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cc jconsole.o jeload.o
> > >> > >> /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > unix/libedit64.a
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > -ldl
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > -lncursesw -o jconsole
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_deletechars':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x3f2): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x46a): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x4ac): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_echotc':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x74a): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tgetstr'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x8d5): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x8e8): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x991): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x9cd): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_clear_screen':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0xe92): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_insertwrite':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x108f): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x109f): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x11ca): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x11dd): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x11f0): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x1235): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> > >> > >> > > unix/libedit64.a(term.o):term.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > c:(.text+0x1253):
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > more undefined references to `tputs'
> follow
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_move_to_char':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x14de): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x14ef): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x14ff): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x1515): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_move_to_line':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x16d6): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgoto'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x16e6): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x1740): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_set':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x24bb): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetent'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x24d2): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetflag'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x24e8): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetflag'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x24ff): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetflag'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x2516): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetflag'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x252c): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetflag'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> > >> > >> > > unix/libedit64.a(term.o):term.
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > c:(.text+0x2542):
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > more undefined references to `tgetflag'
> follow
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_set':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x255d): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetnum'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x2573): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetnum'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x25a2): undefined
> reference to
> > >> > >> `tgetstr'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_deletechars':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x410): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0x4d7): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_beep':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0xe03): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_clear_screen':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0xe7b): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/un
> > >> > >> ix/libedit64.a(term.o):
> > >> > >> > > In
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > function
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > `term_clear_EOL':
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > term.c:(.text+0xf3b): undefined reference
> to
> > >> > >> `tputs'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > /home/rishe0/gitdev/jsource/
> make/makefile:5:
> > >> > >> recipe for
> > >> > >> > > > >> target
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > 'jconsole'
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > failed
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > make: *** [jconsole] Error 1
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > cp: cannot stat 'jconsole': No such file
> or
> > >> > >> directory
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > For information about J forums see
> > >> > >> > > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > forums.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > --
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > regards,
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > ==============================
> > >> ======================
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys
> > >> 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor
> > >> --export
> > >> > >> 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > For information about J forums see
> > >> > >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > forums.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > > For information about J forums see
> > >> > >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > forums.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > > >> ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > > For information about J forums see
> > >> > >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forum
> > >> > >> > > > >> s.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > ------------------------------
> > >> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > > >> ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > > For information about J forums see
> > >> > >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forum
> > >> > >> > > > >> s.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > > >> ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > > For information about J forums see
> > >> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum
> > >> > >> > > > >> s.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> > For information about J forums see
> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/
> > >> > >> > > forums.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > >> > > > >> --
> > >> > >> > > > >> regards,
> > >> > >> > > > >> ====================================================
> > >> > >> > > > >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> > >> > >> > > > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> > > > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export
> 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > >> ------------------------------
> > >> > >> > > ----------
> > >> > >> > > > >> For information about J forums see
> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/
> > >> > >> > > forums.htm
> > >> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > >
> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------
> ------------------------------
> > >> > >> ----------
> > >> > >> > > > For information about J forums see
> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum
> > >> > >> s.htm
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > --
> > >> > >> > > regards,
> > >> > >> > > ====================================================
> > >> > >> > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> > >> > >> > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > >> ----------
> > >> > >> > > For information about J forums see
> > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum
> > >> > >> s.htm
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> ----------
> > >> > >> > For information about J forums see
> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum
> > >> s.htm
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> regards,
> > >> > >> ====================================================
> > >> > >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> > >> > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3
> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> ----------
> > >> > >> For information about J forums see
> http://www.jsoftware.com/forum
> > >> s.htm
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> > >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/
> forums.htm
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> regards,
> > >> ====================================================
> > >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3
> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/
> forums.htm
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>
> --
> regards,
> ====================================================
> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --armor --export 4434BAB3
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>
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For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
