Roland Mainz wrote: > I disagree. If the Wiki causes _major_ disruption for projects and > communites compared to the current Jive engine then we have to revisit > this discussion and may have to choose a _working_ alternative. Using > the current state of the XWiki on hub.opensolaris.org as > http://www.opensolaris.org/ is something which I would challange at OGB > level if neccesary (and I think we'll get substancial complains from > other project leads once they realise what's going on (again, that was > the case at mozilla.org where the project owners forced the removal of > the Wiki within _one_ day)).
Roland, you have to remember there are (primarily) two groups who will be using this new portal: users and developers. While developers such as yourself might be well-versed in HTML page upload, etc., many people are not. Community sites that require a high-level of technical knowledge or education to edit will greatly discourage and limit contributions. That's why *many* community sites such as one Ubuntu has, and others all feature a wiki. Even google has a wiki feature for their search results now. > The HTML pages (generated from DocBook) _are_ our community pages. We > need them as integrated part of our project and preferable not hosted > "elsewhere". As long as there is a place for your project to place these materials, and you can easily redirect users to that content from your project index page, I don't think this should be too much of an issue. Remember that your community pages should ideally integrate with the look and feel of the rest of the community site, so there should be some restrictions in place. > If we can't use or upload HTML pages as an integrated part of the > Wiki... why should we have the Wiki then at all ? The Wiki should make > things better than the current Jive engine and not _worse_ (originally I > couldn't imagine something "worse then Jive" ... but it looks the Roland, while I understand it may make things different or more difficult for you, the OpenSolaris community website must lower entry barriers for contribution to encourage the growth and success of our community. I prefer writing my own HTML, etc. as well, but I've forced myself (for the greater good) to use TML, etc. on the current website so that others that may not be well-versed in those technologies can edit content easier. opensolaris.org is no longer a website just for developers, and it must change to reflect that. Cheers -- Shawn Walker
