(Please make you Subject fit one line.)

This seems interesting, mostly for speech,
being a technical recommendation of the EBU
(but surely applies to any signal).

I am not familiar with most of that,
but in the meantime, you might want to
have a look at how "loudness" is dealt with
in Praat https://www.fon.hum.uva.nl/praat/ ,
a phonetics software specificaly aimed at the study of speech.

        Jan




On Jun 07 09:13:48, sox-devel@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBU_R_128"
> "tech.ebu.ch/loudness"
> "tech.ebu.ch/files/live/sites/tech/files/shared/r/r128.pdf"
> "tech.ebu.ch/files/live/sites/tech/files/shared/tech/tech3341.pdf"
> "tech.ebu.ch/files/live/sites/tech/files/shared/tech/tech3342.pdf"
> "tech.ebu.ch/files/live/sites/tech/files/shared/tech/tech3343.pdf"
> "tech.ebu.ch/files/live/sites/tech/files/shared/tech/tech3344.pdf"
> "itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/bs/R-REC-BS.1770-5-202311-I!!PDF-E.pdf"
> 
> There should be some set of test files available, but I didn't
> succeed to download it.
> 
> SoX already has a "loudness" feature but it does not seem to be the
> one defined by "EBU R 128" & "ITU-R BS.1770". It also has "stat" and
> "stats" features, with findings not including values used by
> "EBU R 128" & "ITU-R BS.1770"
> 
> Suggestion: add evalutaion of those 4 values
> * true peak
> * max Momentary loudness (400 ms)
> * max Short term loudness (3s)
> * Integrated loudness (whole file)
> and make them available in a suitable way ("-stat" or "-stats" or a new 
> command).
> 
> Indeed I pefer having those values reported, over performing some
> "normalization" directly. Having those values I can perform the task
> either with SoX or other program (AudaCity, FFMpeg, ...). Plus
> the "gain" feature of SoX is already overcomplicated.
> 
> Maybe the options "norm" and "gain n" should be tagged as discouraged
> in the manual, since they seem to perform the highly
> unfortunate "peak normalization" (true or untrue?).
> 
> I have found some "loudness" in SoX, AudaCity, and FFMpeg. Unfortunately
> SoX seems to use a different loudness than "EBU R 128" & "ITU-R BS.1770".
> AudaCity apparently can normalize correctly, but not report any findings,
> plus it's bloated and GUI-only. FFMpeg mentions "EBU R 128" but seems
> to do something strange, or different from what AudaCity does at least.
> 
> 
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