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Michael DeHaan wrote:
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Michael DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>  
>>> Vladimir Zlatkin wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Clifford Perry wrote:
>>>>      
>>>>> Vladimir Zlatkin wrote:
>>>>>        
>>>>>> Jesus M. Rodriguez wrote:
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>   * rhn-satellite is no longer in /etc/init.d, use
>>>>>>> /sbin/rhn-satellite
>>>>>>>     to start/stop the entire satellite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> I am curious, what is the motivation for this change?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>> Various levels of breakage in having on chkconfig style script owning
>>>>> multiple daemons. Move to a more per daemon init script and have
>>>>> /sbin/
>>>>> command to stop/start them all at once if needed once booted up.
>>>>> Allow for
>>>>> the daemons to start cleanly also when switching run levels. 
>>>>> Michael Mraka
>>>>> had 3 bugs and so tackled the issue by re-factoring this structure.
>>>>>
>>>>> A suggestion (which I hope made it into bugzilla) was made last
>>>>> week to
>>>>> put a simple echo "please use the /sbin/ .. " command now when
>>>>> attempting to
>>>>> run /etc/init.d/rhn-satellite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you see something 'bad' in this? Or just wondering about why?
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>> I don't see it as a bad change, if bugs were fixed then this is a good
>>>> thing.   Monitoring scripts and clustering applications will have to
>>>> change.
>>>>  Also, /sbin is not a typical location for init scripts.  That is
>>>> why I was
>>>> curious.
>>>>       
>>> Why can't this can't be dealt with by multiple-init scripts with
>>> dependencies?
>>> I don't like the idea of init.d scripts that don't have a function being
>>> installed by an RPM either.
>>> --Michael
>>>     
>>
>> Actually for some reason this seems to scream out LSB violation, but
>> its probably on the lines of "Well it it ain't, it darn well should
>> be." Most of the bigger software I see has something like:
>>
>> /etc/init.d/XYZ-overlord
>> /etc/init.d/XYZ-squid
>> /etc/init.d/XYZ-sendmail
>> /etc/init.d/XYZ-virusscanner
>> etc..
>>
>> You run overlord to recycle the whole thing (it runs the smaller
>> ones..) but it runs the single ones by themselves.
>>
>>   
> 
> good point:  LSB headers don't exist for EL 4/5, though we should have
> them in there so they are also available in Fedora. 
> Either way, if tools that manipulate services continue to work, that's
> desirable :)
> 
> (Aside -- this list isn't set up to Reply-To-List.   It should be.   Can
> this please be fixed to be consistent with other lists?  You're probably
> getting some off-list traffic as a result)
> 

It probably could be, and luckily, you can do it yourself as the admin:

Spacewalk-devel list run by mdehaan at redhat.com, jesusr at redhat.com,
mmccune at redhat.com

same is true of Spacewalk-list.
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