I recently left a DOE lab where we were going to manage several thousand
linux boxes with Spacewalk. Oracle was the deal breaker.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I think you'd be surprised at how many corporates look at the cost of RHN
> Satellite and see it as too high.  When it comes to penny pinching, the big
> guys tend to do it pretty well.  Only one of my previous clients was happy
> with the cost of Satellite - and investment bank before the crunch.  One of
> the first things they chopped when hitting the recent hard times was
> Satellite.  They now use Altiris.
>
>
>
> I wouldn't advocate alienating any user base.  I just think corporate-land
> would be keener to ditch Oracle than many people think.
>
>
>
> Duncan
>
>  On 04 May 2010 at 17:35 Andy Speagle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > El mar, 04-05-2010 a las 04:27 -0500, [email protected] escribió:
> > > I'd echo this sentiment.  Having worked on a number of large corporate
> > > Satellite installations, I can't think of a single client who wouldn't
> > > jump at the chance of ditching the extra Oracle licenses involved.
> >
> > Indeed... but many larger organizations won't even blink at this
> > license.
> >
> > > Maintaining support for an Oracle back end may be a requirement, but
> > > from my own experience, moving to PostgreSQL as the primary
> > > development effort would not raise any eyebrows in corporate-land.  It
> > > would also help broaden the appeal of Spacewalk amongst the open
> > > source development community as coders for other distros will likely
> > > (IMO) view the Oracle dependency as a blocker to them investing their
> > > time.  Opening the path for other distros to develop Spacewalk as
> > > their management tool can only be a good thing I reckon.
> >
> > I will be quite happy to see the database options expand, but I assert
> > that many organizations standardize their database environments and
> > build a wealth of support infrastructure around them.  Having to
> > implement a new database architecture to support Spacewalk/Satellite
> > could be quite unpalatable.  Unless I'm mistaken, reducing
> > administrative overhead is one goal of the spacewalk/satellite projects.
> > The addition of another database architecture to support would be
> > counter-productive for some organizations.
> >
> > While I agree that opening doors for smaller organizations to use the
> > products on PostgreSQL is desirable, I would not like to see this happen
> > as the expense of the existing user base.
> > --
> > Andy Speagle
> >
> > Systems & Storage Administrator
> > UCATS - Wichita State University
> >
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> > C: 316.617.2431
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