On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > > http://www.angelfire.com/space/netcensus/ispassassin.html > > Its crap like this article that keep ISPs from even telling users > they have the ability to use SA!!! I've seen major ISPs never tell > there customers unless they ask for some antispam software.
I think it all depends. It depends on many factors at the ISP level, and I think that if a user opts to use SA, then it's not even an issue. > ISPs definetley have to handle spam differently then companies. > In a company, it is OUR email. We control it, not the users. > Company policy dictates we can do anything we want with the email. > This is made clear to the employees, that there is no "perceived > privacy" in company email. That last one's a tad on the dangerous side. Whilst it might work here in the good old US of A, there are other countries that have _very_ strong privacy and labour law in place. > With that, we don't go reading peoples' email. We simply tag it, > but I do view the spamtrap. Viewing the spamtrap at an ISP can be done, but only with the consent of the user who's mail you're looking at, and then, in my opinion, only if asked to. That's the beauty of SA in an ISP setting -- it only _tags_. The actual filtering is up to the user. If a user pulls a FP, he's within his rights to ask "Why?" and provide the text and headers of his message to you so you can do the analysis; there's no breach of privacy there. > And as such, I may view an FP. An ISP admin can't go doing > that. Too much time on your hands, Chris? ;-) > SA rule writers are definetly trying to keep ISPs in mind > when writing rules. Agreed, but one can look at an ISP setting as a "special case" and just forge ahead. The defence points for an ISP would, I think, be that they offer SA as an opt-in feature (which users will flock to once they understand how effective it is) and don't bounce stuff back at the sender. That writer got his knickers in a twist over a perceived slight over porn -- maybe he's a prude, who knows, who cares. Has anyone else heard of him? I haven't. > As far as an ad goes....wouldn't you have to sell something > to be truely an ad? :) Pointing someone at a source of information on the workings of a mechanical object is no worse than sending someone to the public library, with an index card, to find something. Foo! +------------------------------------------------+---------------------+ | Carl Richard Friend (UNIX Sysadmin) | West Boylston | | Minicomputer Collector / Enthusiast | Massachusetts, USA | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +---------------------+ | http://users.rcn.com/crfriend/museum | ICBM: 42:22N 71:47W | +------------------------------------------------+---------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk
