how does one go about setting up an SMTPReject wrt SA ?
are there docs for sendmail/exim/qmail etc ?

i would love to 5xx say spam above certain threshold with a rude message ^_^

thanks in advance

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bart Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] spamassassin on Gateway server (MX)


> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Ross Vandegrift wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 02:20:16AM -0600, David B Funk wrote:
> > > If you SMTP reject the spam, it never hits your queue, so no problem
> > > with the garbage piling up and no bombarding poor innocent 'joe-job'
> > > victims. It's better than auto-deleting spam, as a legit message
> > > that is accidentally mis-identified as spam gets returned to the
> > > true sender and they can remedy the situation rather than wondering
> > > what happened to their message.
> >
> > I hope you see the contradiction in the above paragraph.
>
> There's no contradiction; he said "SMTP reject" which implies a 5xx
> response at some point in the SMTP protocol, not a queue-then-bounce.
>
> 5xx rejects sometimes cause "bombarding poor innocent 'joe-job' victims"
> but only if the messages are passing through a relay that has already done
> the queue-then-(deliver or bounce) part.
>
> On a direct connect from the sender's MTA to yours, a 5xx reject will only
> affect the actual sender (regardless of MAIL FROM: forgery), which is what
> you want in the case of legitimate (e.g. accidentally misaddressed) email.
>
> > I had spamass-milter setup to reject for a while, and I found that my
> > queues were always full.
>
> spamass-milter is not rejecting during SMTP, then -- or you have a gateway
> server that's doing the queue-and-bounce, with spamass-milter running
> elsewhere.  In that case you should be doing the rejecting at the gateway.
>
>
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