Hi Bob,

> Hello lists,

You can call me Tony ;)

Many thanks for responding to my plea.

>> a "normal" install of an app does not apply to the cpanelled version :/
>
> Understood.  I'm a domain master on three similar machines (three
> different domains), all using SA under cpanel's installation. Works
> well for me (though I've strengthened SA for myself more than most
> others would be able to).

Ah, a guru then ;)

>> I would like to do the following:
>
>> 1. Turn auto learn on (unless this is not recommended???).
>
> In my cpanel installations auto-learn is automatic.

Any idea how I can turn this on?  It is turned off on my server, and those
of others using the same dedicated server provider - and they don't do it
themselves, so I assume it is OFF by default in recent versions of
CPanel....

>> 2. Allow my clients to run sa-learn if they wish (they do not have ssh
>> access, but can run cron jobs), ideallty on a regular automated basis
>
> I use cron scripts which look for files named newspam.txt and
> newham.txt in my domain root directories, and if found, run sa-learn
> against and then delete the files. I create these files by FTP upload
> from my email client. Works great.

Cool.  Do you run these for the whole server or just for YOUR domain?

> Only requirement is an email client that will output
> intelligent/useful files (I use mbox format).

ditto.

> I have users that use horde for webmail. I've created hamlearn and
> spamlearn folders for them, and my cron scripts look to see if those
> folders are non-empty.  If so, it runs sa-learn against those folders
> and then empties them.

Sounds good, just the sort of thing I'm after.

>> 3. Run sa-learn on a regular, automated basis for the entire server
>
> That can be a challenge.

running it for the entire server, or running it automatically?

>> and certainly I haven't noticed a drop-off in spam, which is why I think
>> it was for the root account that this was run rather than for the whole
>> server.
>
> I agree -- sa-learn normally runs for whatever user runs it.

> sa-learn runs best for individual users and/or individual systems.
> While a system-wide bayes is better than none, you won't want to
> interfere with those users/domains that are able to do their own bayes
> work.

Can you tell me how to run it for the entire server?
Why is it better to have individual ones for each user - becuause they
have different ideas of what constitutes spam?

> As an end-user, I can't help you much with the cpanel setup, but I can
> help you with the types of things I have managed to do here.

Sounds like you're a lot more than an end-user Bob.
You are doing a heck of a lot that I would like to be able to do.
Apart from the lack of SA/cpanel knowledge, I am a *indows man not a *nix
one, so cron jobs/perl scripts/shell scripts are all pretty new to me.

How much do you want for a copy of your scripts? ;)

many thanks,


Tony

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