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Matt Kettler writes:
> At 01:17 PM 7/8/2004, Cami wrote:
> > > MTA layer integration.. It scans at the end of the SMTP DATA phase 
> > prior to accepting delivery. Messages can still be 4xx'ed or 5xxed at the 
> > end of the DATA phase, so this does in fact work.
> >
> >Completely defeats the point of greylisting..
> 
> No, it doesn't. If you think it does, perhaps you've misunderstood what was 
> described above. Note that this is still done prior to accepting the 
> message. It's done after the DATA phase, but BEFORE the acceptance of that 
> data.
> 
> It does miss out on the "extra benefit" of bandwidth savings, but does not 
> defeat the spam-prevention powers of greylisting. And reducing the amount 
> of spam in your mailbox IS the primary purpose of greylisting.
> 
> The spam still doesn't end up in your mailbox. The legitimate email still 
> tries again. Benefits of greylisting are 99% intact. 

Yeah -- IMO, the "bandwidth" argument -- where spamfiltering systems can
be deployed at SMTP connect/HELO/MAIL FROM/RCPT TO stages -- is not a
killer requirement nowadays.

It's greatly outweighed by the benefits of

    - fewer false positives
    - less time spent on manual filtering by end users

Systems that take care of those two should be prioritised over the
bandwidth benefit.

- --j.
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