Wouldn't that mean the first one would get through? I don't see how any
checksum would work these days. To many spams are autogenerated to bypass. 

I found the comment about knowing the difference in a legit vdrug email vs a
spam quite funny. SARE does a LOT of research. Some ninjas even sign up to
legit newsletters like medical. (With permission of the list owners of
course.) Findings are prety interesting. Most medical emails don't talk
about the drugs. They talk about the disease. They link to stories that
would talk about the drugs. That was some good info!

--Chris 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Upwood, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:59 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [OT] Spam FIREWALL software
>
>
>Sounds like they might be creating spam "checksums" and comparing that
>to the SMTP stream coming across the firewall at the packet level, so,
>in theory, it never reaches the mta.
>
>
>-Jim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ryan Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 3:19 PM
>To: Dave Schneider
>Cc: Chris Santerre; [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [OT] Spam FIREWALL software
>
>
>Dave Schneider wrote to Chris Santerre and
>[email protected]:
>
>> Am I the only one that chokes on the "1 false positive out of 25000"
>> ??!! Thats like..hundreds an hour in my environments... Ill stick to
>> my schema..
>
>Hi Dave,
>
>As others have mentioned, 1/25000 FP rate is rather good.
>
>However, you've misquoted them. Their quote refers to "misclassifying
>only one out of 25,000 emails". "Misclassifying" is ambiguous. It
>*might* mean, out of 25,000 emails, they had only one FP *or* FN (you
>guess which one), which would indeed be impressive (but not
>unprecedented)... or it might mean their filter is so aggressive that
>they only had 1 FN out of 25,000, but haven't bothered to publish their
>FP rate... which might mean it's pretty abysmal.
>
>I can filter 100% of your spam, guaranteed! Are you interested? OK, I
>thought so. Read on! I have a groundbreaking product that stops spam at
>the MTA level without even touching disk or memory. I call it the
>/dev/nullifier. The algorithm is top secret. I don't have hard numbers
>on the effect on legitimate mail, but we haven't seen any false
>positives since implementing this revolutionary approach to spam
>blocking. Unlike content-based filtering, ours does not require
>learning.
>
>And, Chris, you're not the only one who's more than a little jaded. ;-)
>
>- Ryan
>
>-- 
>   Ryan Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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