Feature Requests item #973376, was opened at 2004-06-15 18:50 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by kalvaro You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=973376&group_id=61702
Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: Outlook Group: None Status: Open Priority: 5 Submitted By: Lance (lancevictor) Assigned to: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin) Summary: Make "Delete as Spam" *really* Delete the email Initial Comment: Proposed change in functionality: If SpamBayes automatically detects spam, it moves it to the Spam folder (where I can go to verify that it really was spam). On the other hand if *I* select a message and click "Delete As Spam" I'd like the message to be moved to my deleted folder (ie: a human has already verified that it really is spam and it can safely be deleted completely, not moved to "spam"). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Álvaro G. Vicario (kalvaro) Date: 2006-07-05 12:47 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=688075 I would love to have this option. I hardly ever let a machine delete my e-mail by its own (the only exception is my virus scanner) so I review manually the "spam" and "spam suspects" folders. So: Detected ham: untouched (OK) Detected spam: I remove it (OK) Undetected ham: gets back to inbox (OK) Undetected spam: gets to spam folder... to be reviewed AGAIN! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin) Date: 2006-05-05 22:11 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=552329 As below, this would only be an option, or the patch would not be accepted. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Alan Arndt (a_arndt) Date: 2006-05-05 20:38 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1517573 Personally I would not be in favor of this change, or if done it must have a configuration option. My spam goes in the spam folder, outlook archives (deletes it) on a schedule I specify. My deleted mail contains legitimate information I may want to save. The two should not be mixed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin) Date: 2006-03-29 06:43 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=552329 My earlier comments still apply: No work has been done on this, and developer time is pretty short at the moment (and more likely to be spent on other things, I expect). As such, if anyone wants to work up a patch and submit it here, that would be great. If you have questions, feel free to ask here or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Jim McMaster (mcmasjc) Date: 2006-03-28 18:01 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=683799 Is this feature still on the radar? It would be nice if "Delete As Spam" moved the message straight to deleted items. I do not blindly delete anything. I go through the "Possible Spam" folder, clicking "Delete As Spam" or "Recover From Spam" on each message, usually based on the subject. Then I go through the spam folder, deleting or (very rarely...spambayes is good) "Recover From Spam" again for each message, usually based on the subject. Finally, I empty the deleted items folder. With the current behavior, I have to look at each possible spam twice, once to click the "Delete As Spam" and again to move it to deleted items. I don't see why I should have to basically tell the system twice this thing is a spam. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin) Date: 2006-01-19 10:20 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=552329 I still don't see why this is a problem, given that you have to delete the messages (either manually or with something like autoarchive) in the spam folder anyway. I would not be happy with a patch that deleted the message - a big plus of the Outlook plug-in is that we can safely say that SpamBayes never deletes the user's mail. A patch that adds an option to have clicking the "Spam" button move a message to the Deleted Items folder would be acceptable, IMO. No work has been done on this, and developer time is pretty short at the moment (and more likely to be spent on other things, I expect). As such, if anyone wants to work up a patch and submit it here, that would be great. If you have questions, feel free to ask here or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Noam (noamt) Date: 2006-01-18 16:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1020850 Will it be done? Is it already fixed in CVS? Do you need help with implementing it? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Bill Mullen (om-bill) Date: 2005-09-14 16:37 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=681981 I completely agree. It is such a pain to process mail twice (albeit not as painful as dealing with spam without SpamBayes). To extend the request, allow the user to select where they would like to send the mail that is manually processed. Absolute spam (auto detected) goes to spam folder Possible spam (auto detected) goes to possible spam folder Absolute span (manually processed) goes to Deleted Items folder ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: John Clutterbuck (jclutterbuck) Date: 2005-01-21 09:44 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=132548 I totally agree. I have been using SpamBayes plugin for Outlook for about a month as I get up to 40 SPAM a day. I habitually check and clear my spam folder as I still get the odd false positive message. Messages that I remove from Suspects and (rarely) Inbox using 'Delete as Spam' are moved to my Spam folder where I then have to delete them again. I would like an option so that 'Delete as Spam' trains SB that it is spam and then deletes it. This delete could either move it to Deleted Items or permanently it - is this a secondary option? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Tony Meyer (anadelonbrin) Date: 2004-10-07 08:26 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=552329 It looks like from 1.1 the buttons will be called "Spam" and "Not Spam". However, I presume that you'd still like this functionality - and it would fit more nicely with that change, IMO. I suppose we could add a "move to Deleted Items" option where the "mark as read" options are. My main question is whether there is a need for this given that you are presumably clearing out (somehow) the spam folder anyway, does it matter if there are a few extra emails as well? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment By: Soulin (soulin) Date: 2004-09-21 17:03 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1121435 I must agree, in fact I actually wanted to post same thread :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=498106&aid=973376&group_id=61702 _______________________________________________ Spambayes-bugs mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes-bugs
