SpamBayes for Olde Worlde environments-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stuart Moors
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Spambayes] SpamBayes for Olde Worlde environments
 
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So, how about - for the email service providers, a facility that: 
A. filters according to Bayesian principles,  

The assumption behind all client-side spam filtering is that the communications 
costs of transferring messages is lower than the cost of filtering them on the 
server.  This is not very practical for a metered dialup account with a lot of 
spam.  Some ISP's perform user-specific Bayesian filtering on the server, so 
you may be able to get this by changing your email provider, even if you are 
restricted as to your connectivity provider.

B. retains spam at the server, either indefinitely until the space runs out or 
until a per-message expiry date occurs  

Because you are using their expensive server facilities instead of the 
end-user's inexpensive facilities, most providers who operate for profit and do 
not support themselves with advertising don't care to do this.  Dial-up users 
today are unfortunately stuck with the worst of both worlds:  the spam problem 
enabled by widely available high-speed connections along with slow, expensive 
communications, making it unappealing to download messages for CPU-intensive 
filtering in the mail client.

As others have pointed out, a webmail approach may be better for dialup users.  
Unfortunately, anything based on a web browser that serves advertising through 
a dialup line may not solve your problem.  The good part about webmail is that 
you can look at headers in both ham and spam folders and decide what to 
download into your local mail client.  You can also identify messages that are 
misclassified, often without viewing the messages.  If you can find a browser 
solution for your local machine that minimizes the ads it downloads, this may 
be practical for you.  Another possibility is to find a webmail provider that 
you pay for and does not serve any advertising to conserve your bandwidth and 
minimize your connection time.  If you cannot find anything like this, let us 
know.

C. alerts the user to a SINGLE message (say once per week) of filtered out 
stats and summaries  

This certainly could be done.



-- 
Seth Goodman
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