On Wed, June 29, 2011 17:42, Thomas Hruska wrote: > On 6/29/2011 4:08 AM, Erik Ohrnberger wrote: >> I gave up on spambayes. It was letting too much spam through. At one >> time, >> it was batting 100, but I guess the spammers got smarter or something. >> >> I'm using a gmail account now forwarded to a private (secret) inbox that >> my >> outlook pulls down. > > Same here (minus the Outlook part). Spammers won because Spambayes > didn't keep up, IMO. Letting us define a list of word filters and rules > to apply prior to letting Spambayes do its Bayesian thing would be a > vast improvement to the product despite what the devs claim. I know my > e-mail better than any computer does or likely ever will.
You can do that if you use Spambayes as a procmail filter. > Spambayes also isn't very good about enforcing balanced ham/spam. It > works best with equal parts and small numbers of ham and spam but never > actually enforces either policy. 99% of what comes into many people's > in-boxes is spam. The solution spammers came up with to get through > Spambayes was simply to generate more spam and hope people would > overtrain Bayesian filters, which is exactly what constantly happens > with Spambayes. Bayesian-like filters are hard to work with and really > need a trainer analyzer. A good trainer analyzer will keep the filter > free of things that would not produce effective results. In this case, > the elimination of spam and limited false positives. amedee@intrepid:~$ ./bin/spamstats Spam: 2974 Ham: 2040 So I have a 3:2 ratio. It could be better, but I'm not complaining. > I can open my mouth here because I've actually done some development on > this open source product. Or at least attempted to. My contributions a > few years ago were effectively rejected, which pretty much killed any > potential future efforts on my behalf. I happen to have some pretty > solid C++ COM Outlook add-in development street cred, so the Spambayes > devs ruined an opportunity to pick up a Windows developer with the > requisite knowledge. Where is your branch? I assume that you used some kind of public repository for your code? You can always fork... _______________________________________________ SpamBayes@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Info/Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/spambayes Check the FAQ before asking: http://spambayes.sf.net/faq.html